> On 26. Jan 2021, at 10:18, Marek Zarychta <zarych...@plan-b.pwste.edu.pl> 
> wrote:
> 
> W dniu 26.01.2021 o 08:58, Graham Perrin pisze:
>> On 26/01/2021 07:02, Alexey Dokuchaev wrote:
>> > Re: loading drm crashes system
>> > … There are known issues with Radeon cards, they were quite well
>> > supported a year ago, then something got broken. I've promised to
>> > bisect this and find the cause, but there were several
>> > syscall-related changes in -CURRENT though the course of the last
>> > year, so bisecting just the kernel is not enough (machine won't get
>> > to login prompt if the userland does not match), which cripples the
>> > process.
>> >
>> > I still intend to take this quest, just not sure when. :(
>> >
>> > ./danfe
>> Any cards in particular?
>> <https://old.reddit.com/r/freebsd/comments/kyoxmc/freebsd_quarterly_status_report_fourth_quarter/gjiw3y3/>
>>  – whilst I didn't mention Radeon there, for me it _was_ the Radeon story 
>> that seemed to improve a few months ago.
>> <https://bsd-hardware.info/?id=pci:1002-6841-103c-17a9> AMD Thames [Radeon 
>> HD 7550M/7570M/7650M]
> 
> 
> 
> For example old RS880 [Radeon HD 4200]. After deprecation of 
> graphics/drm-fbsd12.0-kmod I found that it is still supported fine on 
> 12-STABLE with legacy /boot/kernel/radeonkms.ko from the base. While trying 
> the driver from graphics/drm-fbsd12.0-kmod I was not able to use this card 
> with gdm, only startx or x11/slim worked. On 13-ALPHA this card still works 
> fine with deprecated graphics/drm-legacy-kmod.
> 
> 

Does gdm start X in specific way? I mean, afaik, gdm is X11 client as any 
other, so the question would be, how does gdm get Xorg started, what is 
different compared to startx etc? Might it be about gdm user permissions to 
access drm devices?

my 2cents..
toomas
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