On Tue, 14 Dec 2021 10:14:24 +0000
Alexey Dokuchaev <da...@freebsd.org> wrote:

> On Tue, Dec 14, 2021 at 09:14:27AM +0100, Emmanuel Vadot wrote:
> > On Tue, 14 Dec 2021 07:11:28 +0000 Alexey Dokuchaev wrote:
> > > ...
> > > Oh, you know, it's about steadily deteriorating quality of our gfx
> > > stack once we had started pulling things from Linux.
> > 
> > Right.
> > That just proves that you know nothing and will just complain on
> > everything "new".
> 
> I know that I had problemless desktop some 10-5 years ago, okayish
> desktop ~three years ago, tolerable experience with 4.16.x DRM bits
> and shitty one with current 5.4.x (FWIW, 5.x had been problematic
> for me since the beginning, but previously it was fairly easy to
> build drm-fbsd12.0-kmod on -CURRENT to avoid regressions, now the
> source bases had divered too far enough; it's probably still possible
> to patch, but would take longer time).

 Any PR open for your issues ?

> > We've *always* pulled drm bits from Linux, always.
> 
> You know what I've meant.

 I do because I know the history, not everyone does.

> > > In FreeBSD chat and with less biased poll than the one Warner had posted
> > > on Twitter, most people had actually voted against making it off by
> > > default: https://t.me/FreeBSD1/25129.
> > 
> > So nothing changes then?
> 
> How do you mean?  Most FreeBSD people, not some random Twitter crowd, want
> the bell to be on by default, but it's still off.
> 
> ./danfe
> 

 Sorry I didn't see the "against".
 Well this telegram chat is still a community one, I don't see how it
makes a difference. Also I can't see the poll result.

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Emmanuel Vadot <m...@bidouilliste.com> <m...@freebsd.org>

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