W dniu 16.05.2025 o 23:38, Kristof Provost pisze:

On 16 May 2025, at 23:26, Marek Zarychta wrote:

    W dniu 16.05.2025 o 22:38, Kristof Provost pisze:

        On 15 May 2025, at 21:32, Marek Zarychta wrote:

            W dniu 15.05.2025 o 20:59, Cy Schubert pisze:

                In message [email protected],
                Cy Schubert writes:

                    Over the last couple of days epair(4) fails to set
                    up when an IP address is
                    specified.

                    bob# service jail onestart test2
                    Starting jails: cannot start jail "test2":
                    epair0a
                    ifconfig: ioctl (SIOCAIFADDR): Invalid argument
                    jail: test2: /sbin/ifconfig epair0a inet 10.1.1.70
                    netmask 0xffffff00 up:
                    failed
                    .
                    bob# ifconfig epair0a inet 10.1.1.70 netmask
                    0xffffff00
                    ifconfig: ioctl (SIOCAIFADDR): Invalid argument
                    bob# ifconfig epair0a inet up
                    bob#

                This regression is caused by b61850c4e6f6.

            Yes, it requires at least head up, similar to old one,
            known from fibs :

            WARNING: Configuring address on bridge(4) member has been
            turned off by default. Consider tuning 
            net.link.bridge.member_ifaddrs if needed.

        The error message should not suggest changing the sysctl. This
        is a configuration error and will lead to subtle and
        unexpected problems.

        The intent is for the sysctl to go away and for this to be
        entirely disallowed, without a way to bypass the check in 16.0.

        As Lexi pointed out in another e-mail: users should assign
        addresses to the bridge, never to bridge member interfaces.

        —
        Kristof

    Thanks for the statement. Some may consider this a POLA violation.
    If you insist on removing the sysctl, it will require additional
    work to update all existing vm-bhyve and jail setups before
    upgrading to 16.0-RELEASE, whenever it is released.

Only the misconfigured ones. There’s no reason to ever assign IP addresses to member interfaces. Again, |ifconfig bridge0 inet 192.0.2.1/24| is perfectly okay and will continue to work. |ifconfig bridge0 addm epair0a ; ifconfig epair0a inet 192.0.2.1/24| is not. The documentation has had this warning for a long time: “If the bridge host needs an IP address, set it on the bridge interface, not on the member interfaces.“
https://docs.freebsd.org/en/books/handbook/advanced-networking/index.html

It should probably have been more prominent, but preventing foot-shooting is better than warning about the foot-shooting.

—
Kristof

Got it - that sounds like a solid plan. Updating incompatible setups, one by one, before the release of FreeBSD 16.0-RELEASE will help reduce last-minute issues and make the transition smoother.

Cheers

Marek

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