On 2025-06-02 00:00, Steven Harms (High-Security Mail) wrote:
Folks,TL;DR: After being told my cheap and old laptop wasn’t any good forperformance-demanding FreeBSD work (e.g. building VSCode), I bought a new laptop.But… * it uses Meteor Lake chipset * thus does not work in 14.2/3* is thus only likely to be supported in the near future on 15.0-CURRENT (witheven an MFC looking fraught) * and presently is not working on current HEAD
Hello Steven,FWIW I felt close to the same when I got my Lenovo ~year ago. But now I'm *really* happy to say everything in it functions pretty darn good. It's a Lenovo Ideapad
(Framework 12 laptop) It's sporting: 12th Gen Intel(R) Core(TM) i3-1215U CPU, Alder Lake-UP3 GT1 [UHD Graphics] and an AX201 wifi as well as Bluetooth (forget which version). Everything works. I run 3 jails full time for development/ports maintenance. I build everything on this, including world/kernel and all the ports I use with this. I have zero problems building rust/go/electron. Which are heavy-hitters (thelaptop gets warm). But completes the tasks in very acceptable time. So I guess I'm saying, if you're looking for something reasonably modern and w/o breaking the bank. This combination would be a pretty good choice. I run iwlwifi(intel):
channel 40 (5200 MHz 11a vht/80+) -- 802.11/ac -- while it's not *yet* /ax it's pretty fast. I'm using the drm-66-(intel) kmod (i915) for graphics. Runs everything from gtk-(3,4)/gnome and KDE nicely w/o issues. HTH --Chris
I didn’t realize this chip was such a complicator. My research suggests thatsupporting this change is Really Hard (tm). The related issues/branches seem to be in a state of high churn, force-push, and inconsistent signal, so I’m not sure how to estimate a timeline to leaving a pure-VT experience.* In the most earnest waypossible and with humility and in full and total reverence for and gratitude toward souls whose brilliance lets them write *video drivers*:Should I return this computer and wait until 15.0-RELEASE? And how can I know that the video hardware will be supported then/when I buy an alternative? My returnwindow closes shortly so a decision is pressing. *OR*Is Meteor Lake support just a moment away and my services as an early adopter would be appreciated — FWIW: I’ve run all the experimental code to contribute testdata.Either way, perhaps my experience helps us all see the value of the Foundation’sinvestment in project-laptop — and maybe that’s a good thing to share. Myexperience is what a lot of eager, would-be adopters are running into out of the gate, and many of them wouldn’t have the *ahem* decades of Unix use that I haveunder my belt to even reason about what’s going wrong. Steven (Longer)I started out with FreeBSD on a spare laptop I had laying around to see if I liked it enough to keep it. I did! Working through the quirks was something I valued enough to document for others[0]. But when I tried to build VSCode I was laughed out of the building politely informed that my old machine wasn't really feasible as a platform[1]. Fair enough. So I bought a new Asus Zenbook. I opted for Intel(not NVidia) graphics for ease. I expected the i915kms driver to work[2].After struggling to get iwlwifi working (including building a custom usb installer with the requisite firmware and module code), I got to a 14.3 system with network. Awesome. I then tried to build the drm-kmod module again, as I'd done before [3]. Obviously, this winds up not working due to firmware and a host of other concerns.This drove me to 15.0-CURRENT where I’ve been since in a pure-VT existence.I've been tracking the work around drm-kmod[4] in proj-laptop and it seems stalled based on drm-kmod[5].The release schedule[6] suggests, as I read it, that I mightbe waiting until December for a stable 15.0 release. *: TBH, VT-only is not horrible, as I grew up on x86’s dialing up to a SCOterminal and I’ve always had a love for European teletext services and Minitel.It’s awesome for focus... But for what I paid, I’d like to be able to load agraphical environment, sleep on lid close, or not have to rely on my mouse-lesstmux-or-die skills just to get through the day. [0]: https://stevengharms.com/longform/my-first-freebsd/ [1]: https://forums.freebsd.org/threads/vscode-extremely-long-build-builds-linux-on-the-way.97740/ [2] https://www.freshports.org/graphics/drm-kmod [3]: https://stevengharms.com/longform/my-first-freebsd/installation/part-2-power-management/ [4]: https://github.com/FreeBSDFoundation/proj-laptop/issues/47 [5]: https://github.com/freebsd/drm-kmod/pull/332 [6]: https://www.freebsd.org/releases/15.0R/schedule/ --- Public Key: 22BE39E2FA68D8BA8DC4B43A55A16D8CE2B036DEMessages from this account are considered the best-secured and most reliable. Send information regarding health, wealth, or requiring higher standards of security tothis address. Sent with [Proton Mail](https://proton.me/mail/home) secure email.
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