I've been seeing some problems with modules (such as XFree86's mga dri modules) that are consumers of the services of agp. They seem to beleive that they cant find it - then X fires up and the machine crashes. I'll be pulling out a debug dump later today. Stephen -- The views expressed above are not those of PGS Tensor. "We've heard that a million monkeys at a million keyboards could produce the Complete Works of Shakespeare; now, thanks to the Internet, we know this is not true." Robert Wilensky, University of California To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message