I suggest that routed be specified as being BEFORE ntpd. In the absence of a route to the specified servers, ntpd has the annoying behavior of chosing the address of lo0 as the source address for ntp requests, resulting in all sorts of problems.

This wouldn't happen in configurations with defaultrouter, but for those depending on dynamic routing...

Of course, most dynamic routing protocols require a certain time before it goes to a stable state and install the externally received routes, but _that_ I solved with a sleep in the zebractl script (zebra being the router I use).

I do see one contraindication to this behavior. Most routing protocols also react badly to time changes. Egg and chicken problem, but, personally, and running OSPF, which is one of those protocols that react badly to time changes, I find it preferably to run the router first. After all, having ntpd using 127.0.0.1 as source is useless to me.

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