In some email I received from Terry Lambert, sie wrote:
> Sergey Mokryshev wrote:
> > > I'm really not a fan of "NO_PFIL_HOOKS" as an option.
> > 
> > I'm not talking about NO_PFIL_HOOKS but "options PFIL_HOOKS" in GENERIC.
> > Too many people may foot shoot themselves trying to upgrade from 4-STABLE
> > to 5.0.
> 
> If you make them non-optional, which is what started this thread,
> then you *are* talking about having to add an option in to get
> rid of them.

Seriously, Terry, how many "NO_foo" options exist, today ?

> I understand that people all want their pet software to run out
> of the box without modification.

I'm not the one who wants that, it's people who USE FreeBSD.  You
remember users, don't you Terry ? :)

> > > Probably the correct thing to do is to wire in ipfilter as a
> > > Netgraph module.
> > 
> > AFAIK Solaris, HP-UX and others lack Netgraph support, but support pfil.
> 
> They support Streams, instead.  Same ecological niche.

That's STREAMS thank you very much!  I'll talk more on that point in
another email.

Darren

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