As [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Hang on. > > If no disk partitions of any kind are open, there is nothing which > prevents you from doing a "dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/da0 bs=64k".
My guess is that vinum scanned the disks when starting, but found nothing on it. However, my really concern is what i wrote in the subject: i do want something like an option -f for all of this. I'd like to say: hey, i am the admin here. I don't care whether there's anything still active on this disk. If it is, it is OK for me if the kernel panicked if there was something actually still going on. We have umount -f, it was a long way to it. Now i also want disklabel -f, dd -f, and so on. I don't want this to be the default. Of course. > Now, if you tell me you tried > dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/da0c bs=64k > it would stop you (notice ^) Sorry, this was too unexpected to me, and meanwhile i've found a way to trash and relabel that disk, so i cannot reproduce it anymore. Why the sudden `c' partition for it? I thought this is rather considered obsolete, and was merely a historical feature used in a time when there was no such method like accessing /dev/da0 directly? This sounds like a step 5 years backwards to me. -- cheers, J"org .-.-. --... ...-- -.. . DL8DTL http://www.sax.de/~joerg/ NIC: JW11-RIPE Never trust an operating system you don't have sources for. ;-) To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message