On Mon, Mar 24, 2003 at 11:03:52PM +0200, Ruslan Ermilov wrote: > On Mon, Mar 24, 2003 at 08:29:59PM +0200, Jarkko Santala wrote: > > On Mon, 24 Mar 2003, Christian Brueffer wrote: > > > > > On Mon, Mar 24, 2003 at 09:12:15AM -0800, Kevin Oberman wrote: > > > > > Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2003 14:34:57 +0100 > > > > > From: Christian Brueffer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, Mar 24, 2003 at 09:40:32AM +0200, Jarkko Santala wrote: > > > > > > On Sun, 23 Mar 2003, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Christian Brueffer w= > > > > > rites: > > > > > > > >now that MAKEDEV has been gone for a while, the manpages (alpha and i3= > > > > > 86) > > > > > > > >can be nuked as well, right? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Right. > > > > > > > > > > > > Although it might be considered dragging old baggage around, would it > > > > > > make sense to instead of zapping the man page completely write a new one > > > > > > that would at least give a clue on how things are done these days? > > > > > > > > > > > > Otherwise unclued people might just think there's something wrong with > > > > > > their system because the man page is missing and get even more confused. > > > > > > > > > > Well, people are supposed to read UPDATING before updating the system. > > > > > UPDATING already has an entry about this, so has the handbook, the > > > > > release notes etc. > > > > > > > > > > I think we can't really help people that don't read the recommended > > > > > documentation. > > > > > > > > I think POLA should apply to things like this (even across major > > > > releases). MAKEDEV has been around for a long time and most folks are > > > > used to it being there. It's simply something that most people assume > > > > will be there on a Unix-like system. > > > > > > > > Yes, people should read UPDATING and, better still, the release > > > > notes. But taking the added step of having a simple man page with a > > > > pointer to the devfs paper and saying that MAKEDEV is no more there will > > > > avoid a lot of confusion. > > > > > > > > The goal of documentation should not be to make it possible for > > > > sophisticated users to use the system. It should make it as > > > > easy as possible for all levels of users, including those new to Unix > > > > and BSD to use the system. > > > > > > I'll write a small manpage this evening which says that MAKEDEV is gone now > > > with a short summary of what devfs does. > > > Does that resolve your worries? > > > > Exactly what I had in mind, so sounds good to me. ;) You probably want to > > make it as generic as possible, so that keeping it up-to-date doesn't > > become a burden in the future. I'd hate to create any extra maintenance > > work to anyone, no matter how small. > > > I'd rather just MLINK mount_devfs(8) to MAKEDEV(8) for the > time being, say until 5.2 is out, like is the case for > vnconfig(8). >
Also good. devfs(5) would be a better choice then, mount_devfs(8) is just an MLINK to mount_std. - Christian -- Christian Brueffer [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] GPG Key: http://people.freebsd.org/~brueffer/brueffer.key.asc GPG Fingerprint: A5C8 2099 19FF AACA F41B B29B 6C76 178C A0ED 982D
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