> > > > Not to mention "how much memory do you really gain by unloading modules"?
> > > > Considering the price of RAM these days (although not as low as 
> > > > it was, but I won't be spending $650 US for 16M any time soon 
> > > > again), the few K that unloading a bunch of modules saves won't 
> > > > EVER really be noticed by the 83Tb chunk that Nutscrape allocates.
> > ...
> > > The issue is with really small ram embedded systems.
> > > Making things CAPABLE of being small is different from making 
> > > them dynamicly loadable.
> > 
> > Nobody in their right mind is going to produce a "really small ram" 
> > embedded system that features the sort of nondeterminism that 
> > "automatically" (read 'randomly') unloading modules would involve.
> 
> Gee, I guess you better tell the QNX folks that, who've been doing such
> things for as long as you've been programming.  Everyone is an idiot or
> a completely lunatic if they don't agree with you completely?

Since FreeBSD isn't QNX, and entirely lacks the infrastructure that they 
have for this sort of thing, I don't get where you're going here.

We _are_ talking about FreeBSD here, not QNX, right?  If that's the case, 
my point stands - trying to "automatically unload unused modules" in the 
FreeBSD context simply isn't sufficiently deterministic or robust for 
this argument to be valid.

There's too much "this would be good for X case" arguing going on, where 
the proponent clearly hasn't thought much about the X case other than 
that it sounds cool and might add some weight to their otherwise 
unrelated pet cause.  "Really small embedded systems" appear to be the 
Cool Cause Du Jour.

> Seems like everything is black/white for you lately Mike.  Thought about
> taking a vacation to cool off and relax?

Let me know how yours is doing you, and I might consider it.  How many 
years has it been now? 8)

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