:>     I sure do not intend those hacks to remain in there forever!  The I/O
:>     subsystem is a holy mess.  The only reason I'm not working on it right 
now
:>     is because I think Poul is intending to work on it later in the year.
:> 
:
:Now I'm getting a bit torqued at this. Yes, there are problems here,
:but rather than keeping it to yourself what the problems are, how about
:being constructive in suggesting ways we can all improve things.

    A number of conversations and threads have already taken place on the
    topic, though most have been with small private pools of people.  John, DG,
    and I ( and maybe a couple of other people ) have discussed rerouting
    VFS operations through the VM system.  I think that leaked onto the public
    lists at one point.  Poul has a number of really good ideas that he's
    talked to me about that I find very exciting... basically ways to fix the
    buffer cache operation and VFS layering by splitting it into a struct buf
    and a layerable struct ioreq.  Poul's ideas are the most realizeable
    that I've heard to date.  Eventually I think we will have to do both.

    We also need to fix vnode locking for VFS ops.  Right now there is a 
    single vnode/inode lock that is being used both to lock exclusive
    operations and to lock I/O operations.  What we really need is to
    have a master lock for atomicy and range-locks for I/O.

    For example, right now operations on a large file ( say, a 'history'
    file for a news system ) make relatively inefficient use of the VM
    cache.  This is because the vnode is being locked exclusively through
    I/O operations, causing other I/O operations that could be accessing
    cached data to block unnecessarily.  The other big problem is with
    locking order.  Some operations lock the vnode and related VM map
    in a different order then other operations, leading to a potential
    deadlock situation ( also occurs in known mmap/write lockups ).

    Sometimes its hard to keep track of all the things that need fixing.
    There are a lot of dependancies.  Some things need to be fixed before
    work can begin on other things.

                                        -Matt
                                        Matthew Dillon 
                                        <dil...@backplane.com>


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