On 2 Aug 2012, at 18:47, Doug Barton wrote:

> Cheap copout. And quite sad, especially coming from a newly elected core
> team member.

FreeBSD is a volunteer project.  Our DevSummits are not run by a commercial 
organisation, they are run by volunteers.  I am not being paid to organise the 
Cambridge DevSummit, I am doing it in my spare time, as are the other people 
here.  The resources available are those that I can beg or borrow from the 
university and from other developers.  The attendance fee is £50, which is just 
about enough to cover the costs (we hope).  Comparing this to a professionally 
organised event like an IETF meeting, with large commercial sponsors (the IETF 
event you cite is hosted by Google), and complaining that it comes up short is 
insulting.  Saying 'solutions exist, therefore you must have the time, 
expertise, and resources to deploy them' is insulting.  It is not constructive. 
 If you are willing to make a helpful contribution, then it is welcome.  If you 
are going to complain, yet not offer anything constructive, then you are just 
trolling and I am wasting my time by reading your emails, let alone replying.

We have arranged to borrow a decent microphone and camera from the video 
conferencing suite in the department and have planned to use Skype to allow 
remote participation in two sessions.  If you wish to propose a more scalable 
solution that can be easily deployed here by people with no prior experience 
setting up such a system, then please do so.  

If you feel that you can do a better job organising a DevSummit than the people 
who have donated their free time to organise the ones in the past and the ones 
planned in the next few months, then I am certain that they would be very happy 
for you to assist in the organisation.  If your attitude is 'well, I'm not 
going to do anything, but it must be easy because no effort from me is involved 
so you should do it' then I find your attitude personally insulting and 
unproductive.

David

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