On Fri, 12 Oct 2012, Carl Delsey wrote:

Indeed -- and on non-x86, where there are uncached direct map segments, and TLB entries that disable caching, reading 2x 32-bit vs 1x 64-bit have quite different effects in terms of atomicity. Where uncached I/Os are being used, those differences may affect semantics significantly -- e.g., if your device has a 64-bit memory-mapped FIFO or registers, 2x 32-bit gives you two halves of two different 64-bit values, rather than two halves of the same value. As device drivers depend on those atomicity semantics, we should (at the busspace level) offer only the exactly expected semantics, rather than trying to patch things up. If a device driver accessing 64-bit fields wants to support doing it using two 32-bit reads, it can figure out how to splice it together following bus_space_read_region_4().
I wouldn't make any default behaviour for bus_space_read_8 on i386, just amd64. My assumption (which may be unjustified) is that by far the most common implementations to read a 64-bit register on i386 would be to read the lower 4 bytes first, followed by the upper 4 bytes (or vice versa) and then stitch them together. I think we should provide helper functions for these two cases, otherwise I fear our code base will be littered with multiple independent implementations of this.

Some driver writer who wants to take advantage of these helper functions would do something like
#ifdef i386
#define    bus_space_read_8    bus_space_read_8_lower_first
#endif
otherwise, using bus_space_read_8 won't compile for i386 builds.
If these implementations won't work for their case, they are free to write their own implementation or take whatever action is necessary.

I guess my question is, are these cases common enough that it is worth helping developers by providing functions that do the double read and shifts for them, or do we leave them to deal with it on their own at the risk of possibly some duplicated code.

I was thinking we might suggest to developers that they use a KPI that specifically captures the underlying semantics, so it's clear they understand them. Untested example:

        uint64_t v;

        /*
         * On 32-bit systems, read the 64-bit statistic using two 32-bit
         * reads.
         *
         * XXX: This will sometimes lead to a race.
         *
         * XXX: Gosh, I wonder if some word-swapping is needed in the merge?
         */
#ifdef 32-bit
        bus_space_read_region_4(space, handle, offset, (uint32_t *)&v, 2;
#else
        bus_space_read_8(space, handle, offset, &v);
#endif

The potential need to word swap, however, suggests that you may be right about the error-prone nature of manual merging.

Robert

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