On Sat, 22 Mar 2014 22:39:36 -0700, Julian Elischer wrote:
 >  reposting with a useful subject line and more comments
 > 
 > On 3/22/14, 10:33 PM, Julian Elischer wrote:
 > > 
 > > in ipfw that's up to you..
 > > but I usually put the check-state quite early in my rule sets.
 > > 
 > On 3/22/14, 1:34 AM, Ian Smith wrote:
 > > Firstly, that's the one page in the handbook (that I know of) that needs
 > > completely nuking.  It contains many factual errors as well as weird
 > > notions, and will only tend to mislead you; consult ipfw(8) and prosper.
 > > I'd say refer to the examples in rc.firewall but it too is in disrepair.

Firstly, I owe an apology to the doc crew, one of whom contacted me 
privately to point out that the ipfw page has had quite a massaging
lately, and work is ongoing.  I'm sorry for not checking again first.

 > I am working on a new rc.firewall that is much more efficient.
 > the trouble is that the script to make it do what I want is a bit more
 > complicated.
 > I'll put it out for discussion later. maybe tonight.

Great.  Maybe my failed rc.firewall patch from '11 can still be useful.

 > as for the handbook pages.. after we see how the new firewall rules work
 > we can see about rewriting the page.

Yes, well it seems there's a newer framework worth hanging it on now.

I guess we should drop freebsd-security@ until there's some news?

cheers, Ian
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