Brad Knowles wrote:
> 
> At 3:59 PM +0300 2004/03/02, Gleb Smirnoff wrote:
> 
> >   Haven't you understand? I'm the "person who has real-world experience
> >  in running zebra in ISP environments with multiple upstreams and taking
> >  full views".
> 
>         IIRC, he's also got some pretty big cisco equipment (75xx or
> whatever), and he is going to be switching over to OpenBSD+bgpd as
> his secondary core router in the very near future, with plans to
> complete the switch over soon thereafter.  He's putting his money
> where his mouth is.

Gleb is doing the same, and so am I.  However you are not.  Do you
run BGP in your network?

>         Certainly, I have noticed that zebra hasn't done much recently,
> and at least on the surface quagga doesn't seem to have gone that far
> beyond where zebra was a couple of years ago.

At least for me on FreeBSD Zebra has been very stable for me.  There
is no need to always "change" things.

> >  Browse zebra CVS to make sure that author is commiting bugfixes.
> >  For example: last commit to BGP code is done 2 weeks ago.
> 
>         Right, and that bugfix took how long to apply?  When was the
> previous bugfix before that?  When was the last real "new"
> development for zebra?

What is you point?  Do you use Zebra?  Are you affected by it?  Or
are you just ranting?

> >  I stop replying... Do not like flame.
> 
>         Before flaming anyone further, you might want to check out pages
> like <http://www.fosdem.org/2004/index/interviews/interviews_brauer>,
> and then take a look and see what Henning Brauer has actually been up
> to.

And you should stop flaming anyone if you haven't ever used or done
what you are blabbering about.

>         You might also want to check out
> <http://www.commsdesign.com/design_corner/OEG20010323S0048> and ask
> yourself if zebra/quagga handles resiliency the way it should.  If
> this problem isn't already addressed by bgpd, I'm sure it will be
> before Henning can go production with using this for his core routers
> at his ISP.

Sorry, but OpenBSDs bgpd wont to any of that either.  This is mostly
hardware that needs to be redundant.  Not much you can in bgpd.

-- 
Andre
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