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2025/08/28
(311) Logging, backup and undo (was: vital packages)
Graham Perrin
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2025/08/28
(2441) pkg upgrade: ability to complete what was originally intended, following an interruption (was: vital packages)
Graham Perrin
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2025/08/28
Re: vital packages
ykla
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2025/08/27
vital packages
Graham Perrin
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2025/08/26
pkg upgrade (was: freebsd-update and pkgbase)
Graham Perrin
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2025/08/26
[Bug 289097] Base upgrades must not lose user customisations in dot files such as /root/.cshrc and /root/.profile
bugzilla-noreply
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2025/08/26
[Bug 289097] Base upgrades must not lose user customisations in dot files such as /root/.cshrc and /root/.profile
bugzilla-noreply
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2025/08/26
Re: freebsd-update and pkgbase
Baptiste Daroussin
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2025/08/25
[Bug 289097] Base upgrades must not lose user customisations in dot files such as /root/.cshrc and /root/.profile
bugzilla-noreply
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2025/08/25
Re: freebsd-update and pkgbase
Graham Perrin
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2025/08/25
Re: freebsd-update and pkgbase
Dag-Erling Smørgrav
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2025/08/25
Re: freebsd-update and pkgbase
Graham Perrin
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2025/08/23
Re: A couple of pkg-static notices with some context
Graham Perrin
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2025/08/23
A couple of pkg-static notices with some context
Mark Millard
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2025/08/23
Re: certificate verification failures during pkg bootstrapping on a 15-PRERELEASE PKGBASE installation
Chuck Tuffli
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2025/08/23
Re: certificate verification failures during pkg bootstrapping on a 15-PRERELEASE PKGBASE installation
Chuck Tuffli
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2025/08/22
What content should SRCCONF, SRC_ENV_CONF, and __MAKE_CONF reference to match pkgbase builds? (debug and non-debug)
Mark Millard
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2025/08/22
Re: certificate verification failures during pkg bootstrapping on a 15-PRERELEASE PKGBASE installation
Dag-Erling Smørgrav
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2025/08/22
Re: certificate verification failures during pkg bootstrapping on a 15-PRERELEASE PKGBASE installation
Dag-Erling Smørgrav
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2025/08/22
Re: certificate verification failures during pkg bootstrapping on a 15-PRERELEASE PKGBASE installation
Tomek CEDRO
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2025/08/22
certificate verification failures during pkg bootstrapping on a 15-PRERELEASE PKGBASE installation
polyduekes
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2025/08/20
Re: PKGBASE Removes FreeBSD Base System Feature
Graham Perrin
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2025/08/20
Re: An unusually old snapshot time for aarch64 FreeBSD-src-sys-15.* (vs. amd64 and armv7) [ amd64 and aarch64 do not match for /usr/src/ ]
Mark Millard
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2025/08/20
Tool for major/minor upgrades using pkgbase (was: freebsd-update and pkgbase)
Graham Perrin
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2025/08/19
An unusually old snapshot time for aarch64 FreeBSD-src-sys-15.* (vs. amd64 and armv7)
Mark Millard
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2025/08/19
[Bug 288165] _pkgbootstrap target in Makefile.inc1 should use pkg from ${WSTAGEDIR}/usr/bin/{$PKG_CMD} not from host OS
bugzilla-noreply
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2025/08/19
Re: freebsd-update and pkgbase
Dave Cottlehuber
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2025/08/19
[Bug 288165] _pkgbootstrap target in Makefile.inc1 should use pkg from ${WSTAGEDIR}/usr/bin/{$PKG_CMD} not from host OS
bugzilla-noreply
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2025/08/19
Re: freebsd-update and pkgbase
Mark Johnston
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2025/08/19
Re: HEADS-UP: pkgbase pkg upgrade breaks systems Re: after updating to latest, pkg base segfaults and leaves me unbootable
Guido Falsi
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2025/08/18
Re: HEADS-UP: pkgbase pkg upgrade breaks systems Re: after updating to latest, pkg base segfaults and leaves me unbootable
Tilde Joy
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2025/08/16
Re: FYI: Example of pkgbase /usr/src/ files with differences vs. what uname -apKU reports for the commit hash
Mark Millard
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2025/08/16
Using pkgbasify to repair a broken installation of FreeBSD 14.3-RELEASE
Graham Perrin
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2025/08/16
Re: FreeBSD:15:amd64/base_latest/?C=M&O=D has not updated since 2025-Aug-15 09:36; but arm64 and armv7 continued to update
Mark Millard
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2025/08/16
FreeBSD:15:amd64/base_latest/?C=M&O=D has not updated since 2025-Aug-15 09:36; but arm64 and armv7 continued to update
Mark Millard
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2025/08/16
pkgbasify base package requirements (was: PKGBASE Removes FreeBSD Base System Feature)
Graham Perrin
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2025/08/15
Re: FreeBSD-kerberos* problems? : "pkg check -n -d -a" shows various FreeBSD-kerberos*-lib32 as "is missing a required shared library: "
Lexi Winter
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2025/08/15
Re: Note: libutil.so bump from main-n279246-0c381b7f0570
Mark Millard
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2025/08/15
Re: Note: libutil.so bump from main-n279246-0c381b7f0570
Dag-Erling Smørgrav
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2025/08/14
FreeBSD-kerberos* problems? : "pkg check -n -d -a" shows various FreeBSD-kerberos*-lib32 as "is missing a required shared library: "
Mark Millard
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2025/08/14
Re: Note: libutil.so bump from main-n279246-0c381b7f0570
Mark Millard
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2025/08/14
Re: Note: libutil.so bump from main-n279246-0c381b7f0570
Kyle Evans
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2025/08/14
Re: Note: libutil.so bump from main-n279246-0c381b7f0570
Dag-Erling Smørgrav
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2025/08/14
Re: Note: libutil.so bump from main-n279246-0c381b7f0570
Mark Millard
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2025/08/14
Re: Note: libutil.so bump from main-n279246-0c381b7f0570
Dag-Erling Smørgrav
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2025/08/14
Re: Note: libutil.so bump from main-n279246-0c381b7f0570
Mark Millard
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2025/08/14
Re: HEADS-UP: pkgbase pkg upgrade breaks systems Re: after updating to latest, pkg base segfaults and leaves me unbootable
Guido Falsi
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2025/08/13
FreeBSD:15:*/base_latest last updated at 2025-Aug-13 07:55 UTC or before (It was 2025-Aug-14 02:27 UTC or later when written)
Mark Millard
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2025/08/13
Re: libutil.so.9 not found (was: HEADS-UP: pkgbase pkg upgrade breaks systems Re: after updating to latest, pkg base segfaults and leaves me unbootable)
Mark Millard
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2025/08/13
RE: libutil.so.9 not found (was: HEADS-UP: pkgbase pkg upgrade breaks systems Re: after updating to latest, pkg base segfaults and leaves me unbootable)
Mark Millard
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2025/08/12
libutil.so.9 not found (was: HEADS-UP: pkgbase pkg upgrade breaks systems Re: after updating to latest, pkg base segfaults and leaves me unbootable)
Graham Perrin
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2025/08/12
FYI: Example of pkgbase /usr/src/ files with differences vs. what uname -apKU reports for the commit hash
Mark Millard
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2025/08/12
Re: On/for main [so: 15], ftp/curl 's config: "ld: error: unable to find library -lgssapi" (via poudriere-devel)
Mark Millard
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2025/08/12
Re: On/for main [so: 15], ftp/curl 's config: "ld: error: unable to find library -lgssapi" (via poudriere-devel)
Lexi Winter
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2025/08/11
FYI: Approximately when to expect main-* pkg updates that use new system .so.* files to be available from the port-package build(/distribution) servers
Mark Millard
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2025/08/11
Re: On/for main [so: 15], ftp/curl 's config: "ld: error: unable to find library -lgssapi" (via poudriere-devel)
Mark Millard
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2025/08/11
Re: HEADS-UP: pkgbase pkg upgrade breaks systems Re: after updating to latest, pkg base segfaults and leaves me unbootable
Graham Perrin
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2025/08/11
Re: On/for main [so: 15], ftp/curl 's config: "ld: error: unable to find library -lgssapi" (via poudriere-devel)
Mark Millard
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2025/08/11
Re: On/for main [so: 15], ftp/curl 's config: "ld: error: unable to find library -lgssapi" (via poudriere-devel)
Lexi Winter
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2025/08/11
Re: On/for main [so: 15], ftp/curl 's config: "ld: error: unable to find library -lgssapi" (via poudriere-devel)
Mark Millard
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2025/08/11
Re: On/for main [so: 15], ftp/curl 's config: "ld: error: unable to find library -lgssapi" (via poudriere-devel)
Cy Schubert
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2025/08/11
Re: On/for main [so: 15], ftp/curl 's config: "ld: error: unable to find library -lgssapi" (via poudriere-devel)
Lexi Winter
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2025/08/11
Re: On/for main [so: 15], ftp/curl 's config: "ld: error: unable to find library -lgssapi" (via poudriere-devel)
Cy Schubert
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2025/08/11
Re: On/for main [so: 15], ftp/curl 's config: "ld: error: unable to find library -lgssapi" (via poudriere-devel)
Mark Millard
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2025/08/11
Re: On/for main [so: 15], ftp/curl 's config: "ld: error: unable to find library -lgssapi" (via poudriere-devel)
Cy Schubert
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2025/08/11
Re: On/for main [so: 15], ftp/curl 's config: "ld: error: unable to find library -lgssapi" (via poudriere-devel)
Mark Millard
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2025/08/11
Re: How to build kmods packages?
Dag-Erling Smørgrav
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2025/08/11
Re: How to build kmods packages?
Lukas Engelhardt
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2025/08/11
Re: On/for main [so: 15], ftp/curl 's config: "ld: error: unable to find library -lgssapi" (via poudriere-devel)
Herbert J. Skuhra
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2025/08/11
Re: How to build kmods packages?
Dag-Erling Smørgrav
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2025/08/11
Re: On/for main [so: 15], ftp/curl 's config: "ld: error: unable to find library -lgssapi" (via poudriere-devel)
Dan Mahoney (Ports)
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2025/08/11
Re: How to build kmods packages?
vermaden
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2025/08/11
Re: On/for main [so: 15], ftp/curl 's config: "ld: error: unable to find library -lgssapi" (via poudriere-devel)
Herbert J. Skuhra
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2025/08/11
Re: On/for main [so: 15], ftp/curl 's config: "ld: error: unable to find library -lgssapi" (via poudriere-devel)
Dag-Erling Smørgrav
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2025/08/11
Re: How to build kmods packages?
Dag-Erling Smørgrav
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2025/08/11
Re: On/for main [so: 15], ftp/curl 's config: "ld: error: unable to find library -lgssapi" (via poudriere-devel)
Dan Mahoney (Ports)
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2025/08/11
Re: How to build kmods packages?
vermaden
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2025/08/11
Re: On/for main [so: 15], ftp/curl 's config: "ld: error: unable to find library -lgssapi" (via poudriere-devel)
Cy Schubert
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2025/08/10
Re: On/for main [so: 15], ftp/curl 's config: "ld: error: unable to find library -lgssapi" (via poudriere-devel)
Mark Millard
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2025/08/10
Re: On/for main [so: 15], ftp/curl 's config: "ld: error: unable to find library -lgssapi" (via poudriere-devel) [jail world missing /usr/libexec/krb5kdc]
Mark Millard
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2025/08/10
Re: HEADS-UP: pkgbase pkg upgrade breaks systems Re: after updating to latest, pkg base segfaults and leaves me unbootable
Dan Mahoney (Ports)
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2025/08/10
Re: FYI: pkgbase and pkg issue details that came up during my pkgbase system upgrade (main-amd64)
Mark Millard
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2025/08/10
Re: PKGBASE Removes FreeBSD Base System Feature
Don Lewis
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2025/08/09
FYI: pkgbase and pkg issue details that came up during my pkgbase system upgrade (main-amd64)
Mark Millard
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2025/08/09
Re: HEADS-UP: pkgbase pkg upgrade breaks systems Re: after updating to latest, pkg base segfaults and leaves me unbootable
Lexi Winter
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2025/08/09
Re: HEADS-UP: pkgbase pkg upgrade breaks systems Re: after updating to latest, pkg base segfaults and leaves me unbootable
Florian Smeets
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2025/08/09
Re: PKGBASE Removes FreeBSD Base System Feature
Pat Maddox
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2025/08/09
Re: PKGBASE Removes FreeBSD Base System Feature
Pat Maddox
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2025/08/09
Re: PKGBASE Removes FreeBSD Base System Feature
Pat Maddox
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2025/08/09
Re: HEADS-UP: pkgbase pkg upgrade breaks systems Re: after updating to latest, pkg base segfaults and leaves me unbootable
Dan Mahoney (Ports)
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2025/08/09
Re: New pkgbase packages on all mirrors [FreeBSD:15:armv7/base_*/ not updated yet; same for powerpc*'s; more]
Mark Millard
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2025/08/09
Re: after updating to latest, pkg base segfaults and leaves me unbootable
Darren Henderson
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2025/08/09
Re: after updating to latest, pkg base segfaults and leaves me unbootable
Florian Smeets
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2025/08/09
Re: HEADS-UP: pkgbase pkg upgrade breaks systems Re: after updating to latest, pkg base segfaults and leaves me unbootable
Lexi Winter
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2025/08/09
Re: HEADS-UP: pkgbase pkg upgrade breaks systems Re: after updating to latest, pkg base segfaults and leaves me unbootable
Florian Smeets
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2025/08/09
Re: HEADS-UP: pkgbase pkg upgrade breaks systems Re: after updating to latest, pkg base segfaults and leaves me unbootable
Lexi Winter
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2025/08/09
Re: after updating to latest, pkg base segfaults and leaves me unbootable
Lexi Winter
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2025/08/09
Re: HEADS-UP: pkgbase pkg upgrade breaks systems Re: after updating to latest, pkg base segfaults and leaves me unbootable
Dan Mahoney (Ports)
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2025/08/09
HEADS-UP: pkgbase pkg upgrade breaks systems Re: after updating to latest, pkg base segfaults and leaves me unbootable
Florian Smeets
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2025/08/08
Re: PKGBASE Removes FreeBSD Base System Feature
Don Lewis
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2025/08/08
Re: pkgbase is NOT broken because of Kerberos (was: Re: pkgbase is broken because of Kerberos)
Philip Paeps
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2025/08/08
RE: New pkgbase packages on all mirrors [FreeBSD:15:armv7/base_*/ not updated yet; same for powerpc*'s; more]
Mark Millard
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2025/08/08
Re: PKGBASE Removes FreeBSD Base System Feature
vermaden
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2025/08/08
Re: PKGBASE Removes FreeBSD Base System Feature
vermaden
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2025/08/08
Re: PKGBASE Removes FreeBSD Base System Feature
vermaden
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2025/08/08
Re: PKGBASE Removes FreeBSD Base System Feature
Ceri Davies
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2025/08/08
Re: PKGBASE Removes FreeBSD Base System Feature
vermaden
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2025/08/08
Re: PKGBASE Removes FreeBSD Base System Feature
Dan Langille
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2025/08/08
Re: PKGBASE Removes FreeBSD Base System Feature
Roger Marquis
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2025/08/08
Re: PKGBASE Removes FreeBSD Base System Feature
vermaden
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2025/08/08
Re: PKGBASE Removes FreeBSD Base System Feature
Dag-Erling Smørgrav
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2025/08/08
Re: Deletion of just installed port-packages: a question [Trying to avoid being part of other somewhat-related discussions]
Dag-Erling Smørgrav
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2025/08/08
Re: pkgbase is NOT broken because of Kerberos (was: Re: pkgbase is broken because of Kerberos)
Lexi Winter
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2025/08/08
Re: Deletion of just installed port-packages: a question [Trying to avoid being part of other somewhat-related discussions]
Mark Millard
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2025/08/08
Re: PKGBASE Removes FreeBSD Base System Feature
DutchDaemon - FreeBSD Forums Administrator
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2025/08/08
Re: PKGBASE Removes FreeBSD Base System Feature
David Chisnall
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2025/08/08
New pkgbase packages on all mirrors
Philip Paeps
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2025/08/08
Re: PKGBASE Removes FreeBSD Base System Feature
DutchDaemon - FreeBSD Forums Administrator
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2025/08/08
Re: PKGBASE Removes FreeBSD Base System Feature
vermaden
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2025/08/08
Re: PKGBASE Removes FreeBSD Base System Feature
Dimitry Andric
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2025/08/08
Re: PKGBASE Removes FreeBSD Base System Feature
DutchDaemon - FreeBSD Forums Administrator
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2025/08/08
RE: git: 66c75fa63aff - main - freebsd-update: Fix the pkgbase check [-r basedir vs. -c basedir use --and the documentation?]
Mark Millard
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2025/08/08
Re: PKGBASE Removes FreeBSD Base System Feature
David Chisnall
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2025/08/08
Re: pkgbase is broken because of Kerberos
Cy Schubert
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2025/08/08
Re: PKGBASE Removes FreeBSD Base System Feature
David Chisnall
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2025/08/08
Re: PKGBASE Removes FreeBSD Base System Feature
David Chisnall
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2025/08/08
Re: PKGBASE Removes FreeBSD Base System Feature
Dag-Erling Smørgrav
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2025/08/08
Re: PKGBASE Removes FreeBSD Base System Feature
Tomek CEDRO
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2025/08/08
pkgbase is NOT broken because of Kerberos (was: Re: pkgbase is broken because of Kerberos)
Philip Paeps
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2025/08/08
Re: PKGBASE Removes FreeBSD Base System Feature
Dag-Erling Smørgrav
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2025/08/08
Re: pkgbase is broken because of Kerberos
Philip Paeps
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2025/08/08
Re: pkgbase is broken because of Kerberos
Dag-Erling Smørgrav
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2025/08/08
Re: pkgbase is broken because of Kerberos
Philip Paeps
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2025/08/08
Re: pkgbase is broken because of Kerberos
Dag-Erling Smørgrav
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2025/08/08
Re: PKGBASE Removes FreeBSD Base System Feature
Bob Bishop
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2025/08/08
pkgbase is broken because of Kerberos (was: Re: Why is my base tree not updating?)
Philip Paeps
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2025/08/07
Re: PKGBASE Removes FreeBSD Base System Feature
Bane Ivosev
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2025/08/07
Re: PKGBASE Removes FreeBSD Base System Feature
Tomek CEDRO
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2025/08/07
Re: PKGBASE Removes FreeBSD Base System Feature
Colin Percival
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2025/08/07
Re: PKGBASE Removes FreeBSD Base System Feature
vermaden
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2025/08/07
Re: PKGBASE Removes FreeBSD Base System Feature
void
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2025/08/07
Re: PKGBASE Removes FreeBSD Base System Feature
vermaden
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2025/08/07
Re: Deletion of just installed port-packages (excluding base): success
Mark Millard
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2025/08/07
Re: Deletion of just installed port-packages (excluding base): success
Mark Millard
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2025/08/07
Re: Deletion of just installed port-packages (excluding base): success
Graham Perrin
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2025/08/07
Re: Deletion of just installed port-packages (excluding base): success
Graham Perrin
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2025/08/07
Re: Deletion of just installed port-packages (excluding base): success
Graham Perrin
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2025/08/07
Re: Deletion of just installed port-packages (excluding base): success
Mark Millard
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2025/08/07
Re: Deletion of just installed port-packages (excluding base): success
Graham Perrin
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2025/08/07
Re: Deletion of just installed port-packages (excluding base): success
Mark Millard
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2025/08/07
Re: PKGBASE Removes FreeBSD Base System Feature
vermaden
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2025/08/07
Re: freebsd-update and pkgbase
Mark Johnston
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2025/08/07
Re: PKGBASE Removes FreeBSD Base System Feature
DutchDaemon - FreeBSD Forums Administrator
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2025/08/06
Re: Deletion of just installed port-packages: a question [Trying to avoid being part of other somewhat-related discussions]
Jesús Daniel Colmenares Oviedo
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2025/08/06
Deletion of just installed port-packages: a question [Trying to avoid being part of other somewhat-related discussions]
Mark Millard
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2025/08/06
Re: PKGBASE Removes FreeBSD Base System Feature
vermaden
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2025/08/06
Re: PKGBASE Removes FreeBSD Base System Feature
Graham Perrin
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2025/08/06
Re: PKGBASE Removes FreeBSD Base System Feature
vermaden
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2025/08/06
Re: PKGBASE Removes FreeBSD Base System Feature
Tomek CEDRO
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2025/08/06
Re: PKGBASE Removes FreeBSD Base System Feature
Graham Perrin
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2025/08/06
Re: PKGBASE Removes FreeBSD Base System Feature
Graham Perrin
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2025/08/06
Re: freebsd-update and pkgbase
Alan Somers
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2025/08/06
Re: PKGBASE Removes FreeBSD Base System Feature
Darren Henderson
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2025/08/06
Re: PKGBASE Removes FreeBSD Base System Feature
vermaden
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2025/08/06
Re: PKGBASE Removes FreeBSD Base System Feature
Ceri Davies
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2025/08/06
Re: PKGBASE Removes FreeBSD Base System Feature
vermaden
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2025/08/06
freebsd-update and pkgbase
Mark Johnston
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2025/08/06
Re: PKGBASE Removes FreeBSD Base System Feature
Ceri Davies
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2025/08/06
Re: PKGBASE Removes FreeBSD Base System Feature
vermaden
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2025/08/06
Re: PKGBASE Removes FreeBSD Base System Feature
Ceri Davies
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2025/08/06
Re: Why is my base tree not updating?
Herbert J. Skuhra
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2025/08/06
Re: Why is my base tree not updating?
Herbert J. Skuhra
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2025/08/06
Re: PKGBASE Removes FreeBSD Base System Feature
vermaden
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2025/08/06
Re: PKGBASE Removes FreeBSD Base System Feature
Dag-Erling Smørgrav
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2025/08/05
Re: PKGBASE Removes FreeBSD Base System Feature
Graham Perrin
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2025/08/05
Re: FYI: Looks like the various FreeBSD:15:*/base_latest/ last updated before 2025-Jul-21:16:00:00
Mark Millard
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2025/08/05
Testing wanted for pkg job scheduling bugfixes
Isaac Freund
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2025/08/05
Re: FYI: Looks like the various FreeBSD:15:*/base_latest/ last updated before 2025-Jul-21:16:00:00
Jan Bramkamp
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2025/08/04
Re: PKGBASE Removes FreeBSD Base System Feature
vermaden
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2025/08/04
Re: PKGBASE Removes FreeBSD Base System Feature
Mark Millard
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2025/08/04
Re: PKGBASE Removes FreeBSD Base System Feature
David Chisnall
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2025/08/03
FYI: Looks like the various FreeBSD:15:*/base_latest/ last updated before 2025-Jul-21:16:00:00
Mark Millard
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2025/08/02
Re: PKGBASE Poudriere
Guido Falsi
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2025/08/02
Re: PKGBASE Poudriere
Dag-Erling Smørgrav
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2025/08/02
Re: PKGBASE Poudriere
Guido Falsi
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2025/08/01
Re: PKGBASE Poudriere
vermaden
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2025/08/01
Re: PKGBASE Poudriere
Mark Millard
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2025/08/01
Re: PKGBASE Poudriere
vermaden
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2025/08/01
Re: PKGBASE Poudriere
Guido Falsi
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2025/07/31
Re: PKGBASE Removes FreeBSD Base System Feature
Graham Perrin
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2025/07/30
Re: PKGBASE Removes FreeBSD Base System Feature
vimanuelt
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2025/07/30
Re: PKGBASE Removes FreeBSD Base System Feature
Roger Marquis
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2025/07/30
Re: PKGBASE Removes FreeBSD Base System Feature
vimanuelt
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2025/07/30
Re: PKGBASE Removes FreeBSD Base System Feature
vermaden
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2025/07/30
Re: PKGBASE Removes FreeBSD Base System Feature
Baptiste Daroussin
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2025/07/29
Re: PKGBASE Removes FreeBSD Base System Feature
Pete Wright
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2025/07/29
Re: Pkgbase removing all third party pkgs nukes system
Graham Perrin
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2025/07/29
Re: PKGBASE Removes FreeBSD Base System Feature
Shawn Webb
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2025/07/29
Re: PKGBASE Removes FreeBSD Base System Feature
Tomek CEDRO
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2025/07/29
PKGBASE Removes FreeBSD Base System Feature
vermaden