On Fri, 25 Aug 2006, B Briggs wrote:

Sorry to have to reply to my own post, but:
B Briggs wrote:

Like I said, running for a few days now, and no problems. The main difference that I can see is what happens with +REQUIRED_BY with portupgrade tools. For instance: make deinstall && make install does not seem to update +REQUIRED_BY, neither does make deinstall && portmaster /usr/ports/X/Y - there is no +REQUIRED_BY after make deinstall. (This is probably because of make). The only way to get REQUIRED_BY back is to run pkgdb -F, and I want to remove portupgrade. So the question is, is REQUIRED_BY just a portupgrade thing? If so, then I'd make a request that portmaster only uses the IMMEDIATE requirements in that file, run depends list and build depends list or maybe just run depends list. bitstream-vera is listed on a bunch of my ports in REQUIRED_BY files, but it's only required in xorg-fonts-ttfonts to run, and this comes from the x11/xorg metaport. On the other hand, if +REQUIRED_BY is used for packages, then I can understand the recursive dependency. Bottom line is that it's much more meaningful to me to see the direct dependencies.

What I meant to say is that all of the +REQUIRED_BY files of the dependant port are updated in this manner, not that the IMMEDIATE requirements of the port are placed in its +REQUIRED_BY file. Sorry for any confusion.

As an example of bitstream-vera, I can remove it using make deinstall. Firefox lists it as a dependency in +REQUIRED_BY, but it's not listed in
make build-depends-list run-depends-list.
Firefox will run just fine without it (albeit with crummy fonts)

Ok, I think I understand your point now, thanks. What portmaster does is compare the contents of the +REQUIRED_BY file for a port with the @pkgdep listings in the rest of the ports, and makes sure that they match up. It does not try (and I don't think it should try) to use any kind of judgment about which are the really important dependencies.

hth,

Doug

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