I tried to switch from portmaster to synth yesterday. Tests was
sponsored by zfs snapshots.
I still have strong opinion that synth IS NOT replacement for portmaster
and not usable at all.
Yes, synth build ports, however it's just builds them. I don't receive
information:
1. Why it builds exactly this list of ports, what has changed when I
upgraded my ports.
2. It doesn't provide dialog for port options, so
2.1 I don't receive information if port options have changed. I don't
know what else will be pulled to my system after port tree update.
2.2 If I make option files for all ports, synth fails to rebuild
repository if port and it's options are out of sync.
2.3 When port infrastructure switch to newer default version I must be
aware that this change occur and set damn options for new default port.
So, synth is just a dumb port building tool. If you need your own port
options you are in risk. Developer of synth said that the problem is in
my 'portmaster thinking' I should change.
And now I see that he tried to deprecate portmaster!
Fuck it. Until synth gets interactive mode. Probably I will switch to
Linux (yes, I know nobody cares) if the ability to keep custom port
options will be lost. The only tool for this now is portmaster.
Maybe it's my 'portmaster thinking' but I don't understand how one can
use synth if he or she want at least be slightly aware what's going on
in his/her system.
On 17.12.2016 10:49, Hrant Dadivanyan wrote:
On Fri, Dec 16, 2016 at 6:42 AM, Peter Jeremy <peter at rulingia.com> wrote:
On 2016-Dec-15 19:31:22 +0100, list-freebsd-ports at jyborn.se wrote:
Interestingly, the most vocal proponent of deleting portmaster and
portupgrade is the author/maintainer of synch.
It's not interesting at all. Synth was in a large part created because
people were irrationally sticking with portmaster and more frighteningly
gaining new users.
Please don't judge what's rational and what's not, because it's community
and when many people, even irrationally from your POV, sticking with
portmaster, then it's worth to consider and look for a way to keep it up.
The point is that these tools are in great shape and to imply otherwise
needs proof. It's portmaster that's not receiving updates.
In current shape it works well for many people (and demanded by) in
community, so why should it be removed ? You can warn as much as you want
against, but you can't decide to remove.
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