On 22/06/2017 23:16, Baho Utot wrote:
On 6/22/2017 6:36 PM, Miroslav Lachman wrote:
scratch65...@att.net wrote on 2017/06/23 00:15:
[Default] On Thu, 22 Jun 2017 16:11:26 -0500, Mark Linimon
<lini...@lonesome.com> wrote:
On Thu, Jun 22, 2017 at 12:32:45PM -0400, scratch65...@att.net wrote:
My problem is that my industry experience tells me that reducing
the frequency of port releases is practically *guaranteed* to be
a Really Good Thing for everyone.
I remember before we had the quarterly releases, and people on the
mailing lists complained constantly about the ports bits only being
available once per release, or rolling with -head.
Mark, I can only suppose that those complainers are dilettantes
of some sort who believe that having The Latest-And-Greatest Bits
is a social-status enhancer. **Nobody** with real work to do
ever willingly fools away time "fixing" what isn't broken.
And this is where you are so wrong. Ports tree is never in the state
where everything works and has no bugs. (and cannot be, because
upstreams have bugs) Even if it compiles and installs it does not
mean that it is not broken and nobody needs newer version.
Just because your needs are different than others doesn't mean others
are dilettantes.
That is just an argument to not do anything, by default.
Here is my point, I am a user that installs an OS ( FreeBSD-11.0).
Then builds the base from releng-11.0. Followed by building the ports
I need. That doesn't give me a usable system always. Should I not be
able to do the above and expect a stable system? If not I am running
the wrong OS/system. Updates are another monster as I do not want to
place my now running system ( finally stable ) and do this all over
again. I am not up for that. Hell FreeBSD can not even boot my dual
boot system Win7 and FreeBSD 11.0 on zfs raid without going to BIOS
and selecting the disk to boot from. No one here could point me to
how to set it up using grub as a boot loader! The only information I
got was to wing it using half baked information.
A user would probably start with precompiled packages. Only power users
who know what they are doing would try to compile the packages
themselves, and at that point I would expect them to know a thing or two
about verifying that they compile and work fine.
Grzegorz
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