On 09/30/17 10:06, Kevin Oberman wrote:
On Sat, Sep 30, 2017 at 3:34 AM, Carmel NY <carmel...@outlook.com> wrote:


[...]

As a result, I am no longer able to track HEAD and, if the issue is not
resolved in some manner before 11 support ends, will be forced to move from
FreeBSD after an using it for over 2 decades. I certainly hope that this is
not what happens.

If minimizing the size of the physical machines you have access to is
a hard constraint, then a remote binary package linux distro would
definitely decrease your pain level.  However, the trade-off is
someone else selecting your package options.  (NB: I haven't used
arch) Indeed, my disposable travel laptop is debian.  Yet I try doing
as much real work as I can on FreeBSD because the packaging system is
world class flexible.  I *loved*, possibly too much, the ability to
nuke kerberos out of my world, both base OS and packages.  Try doing
that on debian.

But FreeBSD packaging flexibility comes at a cost, and that's mainly
cpu and memory when running poudriere.  In these days of giant &&
cheap && reasonably fast USB storage, I have a hard time giving
credence to disk usage complaints.  For FreeBSD's packaging
flexibility, I am willing to invest what in real dollars is a fraction
of what we were spending in the middle '90s just to get adequate
hardware to run FreeBSD.  It really doesn't take much.  I've given
away half a dozen boxes for free to people over the last 10 years,
that would support poudriere just fine (2-4 threads, 8-16GB) because
used white boxes seem to have nearly no retrievable value.  Not an
elegant physical package like a laptop, but *who cares*.

I am piping up because when I was restarting using FreeBSD after many
years (refugee from debian), you were an invaluable source of help to
me, and of course quite a few others.  It would be sad to lose your
positive contributions to the community over this issue.

All the best,
Russell

--
Kevin Oberman, Part time kid herder and retired Network Engineer
E-mail: rkober...@gmail.com
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