On Thu, Oct 05, 2017 at 10:08:54PM +0000, Baho Utot wrote: > > > On 10/05/17 16:27, Grzegorz Junka wrote: > > > > On 05/10/2017 19:54, Baho Utot wrote: > > > > > > > > > On 10/04/17 16:39, Ernie Luzar wrote: > > > > > > > Here's my take on that. > > > > > > > > The future direction has already been decided by the FreeBSD > > > > leaders 2 years ago with their development of a better pkg > > > > system. > > > > > > > > > > [putolin] > > > > > > > Don't let the few old school die hearts who are afraid of any > > > > change and make the most noise influence you. There will always > > > > be edge case user who think their needs out weight what is best > > > > for the group. > > > > > > So what you are really saying is Go to hell old farts we don't need > > > you here. We are not going to listen to you as you are too old to > > > know anything. You are old and stupid. > > > > > > It is looking like I will need to move away from FreeBSD if that is > > > really what is being accomplished here. > > > > But do those old farts have anything interesting to say or they are just > > making noise? What's the alternative to the proposed direction? > > > > GrzegorzJ > > Everyone should be heard. who knows if the direction would be the same? > > You won't hear from this old fart as every time I have had a question or > input on direction All I got was grief. > > The last time was about pkgng. As someone that moved from LFS/building my > own distribution to FreeBSD, and adding a package manager and tools for LFS. > I think I may have learned something in that process. SO what did you folks > do, Well I was just bitch slapped down. So much for user input. Hell pkgng > can not even merge configurations file in /etc when is that going to be > fixed. It can... and for a while, the fact it is not used in packaging base is another subject, but the tool can definitly do it.
[...] > > Anyway it looks like I will be moving to OpenBSD or just go back to rolling > my own as I have more free time to pursue building systems that work for me. > FreeBSD just doesn't look like it will be a fit for me in the future. Have you figured out that OpenBSD is a step further in the direction you are rejecting: They have FLAVORS for decades and they do strongly recommend users to use binary packages in the first place... Just sating... Bapt
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