Ted Mittelstaedt wrote:

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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Roger 'Rocky'
Vetterberg
Sent: Monday, December 27, 2004 4:57 PM
To: Simon Burke
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED];
freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org
Subject: Re: FreeBSD's Visual Identity: Outdated?


Im a FreeBSD user. I like FreeBSD because it does not have all the
flashy installers and pretty GUI's that many linux distros seems to
have today.

That frankly isn't the reason you should like it.  You should like it
because it works better than most commercial operating systems let
alone most operating systems.
It does, and that is why I use it. Amiga was like that too.

But still, Ive been screaming for years for someone to
improve the website. Why?
Anyone that has stood in front of a boardroom full of CEO's or similar
and tried to promote the use of FreeBSD in a big organisation knows
why. They might like all the facts about the os, the rock-solid
stability, the lightning-fast performance and its solid reputation as
a server os, but one look at the website and they will run screaming
towards the nearest linux advocate instead.

Most of the CEO's I've dealt with don't give a shit on a shingle about
a product website.
Why are you even talking to CEOs? This is a job for CTOs and/or CIOs, and if a company didn't have one you wound then be talking to a CFO or COO.

What they care about is: 'can what I need done
be done in a way that is a) cheap and b) works and c) won't lock me
in to you'
d) support. e) what everyone else uses. Most companys only care about d and e as windows is nether a, b, or c... umm how'd it go... "No one ever got fired for buying IBM"


I've frankly never seen a Linux-vs-FreeBSD deal where Linux won
if the consultant wanted to use FreeBSD,
You assuming the consultant even knows about FreeBSD, most do not.

and the customer was willing
to deviate from Microsoft.

Know your market, we are not trying to get them to switch to FreeBSD from Windows, we are the alternative to the alternative for a company that has already decide to go with the alternative instead of windows.

 VERY few customers are willing to deviate
from Microsoft, at least not in the Western states.
On the desktop yes, but where not talking about desktops here, where talking about servers and Linux has its claws all over the server market.

We, the users, might not care about our image, but if we want to be
taken seriously by the rest of the world we better do something about it!


I would suggest that if you really are this lit up about this issue
that you direct your customers to you OWN website which is quite obviously
superior to the FreeBSD one.
Now thats just asinine.


Roger, you really need to be dumbing down your presentations, these
CEO's your presenting to really don't understand all those big
words.  Instead of using "FreeBSD" use "UNIX"  It's shorter and
even the most sheltered of them understand that yooouu-nikx is
something that runs computers like winders is.
I'm sorry to say but anyone outside of IT/IS/MIS has no clue what UNIX is. at best they mistake it for Linux.

And rather
than telling them how many mega-bytes and giga-bits the nice
new server is going to run at, just tell them it's going to be
big, and fast and powerful like Arnold Schwartznegger.
I agree with you about the megabit and bytes but you have gone to far to the other extreme, they are not stupid, the CEO's job is to keep the company afloat not know what a megabyte is, this is why we have CTOs and CIOs.


In fact you might just consider hiring a professional salesperson
that doesen't really know too much about what your selling.

this is a good idea, I'd have to agree with him.

You shouldn't even
be talking about operating systems until you have sold them on
yourself and your company,
Again this is are target market; consultants, integrators, vars, etc. I bet 80% of them don't even know FreeBSD exists and of the 20% that do only 20% would consider using and recommending it based on technical merit alone.

I want a part of the linux pie!

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