On Nov 1, 2005, at 8:11 PM, tim cle wrote:
Hello, when I was first introduced to BSD, the very
first thing that I noticed was Beastie. It got my
attention. I pointed to Beastie and asked "Whats
that?", and after my initial introduction one of the
things that stayed in my mind was Beastie. So, as
symbol, it fullfilled all the requirements for a
successful symbol, namely:
1: It got my attention.
2: It made me want to know more.
3: It was memorable.
If the new symbol does not fullfill all of the above
points, then I suggest that it is not as effective a
symbol as Beastie.
I for one am not trying to get "rid" of Beastie, but Beastie is not a
good logo. It may be a good mascot, which would be an effective
symbol as you mentioned in your list. So Beastie can fulfill that
role very well and be associated with FreeBSD. A logo has specific
advantages over a generic symbol (or a mascot) though: easy to
reproduce on any medium, simple and memorable, not complex, and as
the main symbol, hopefully not offensive to some groups of people.
Keep Beastie as a good mascot for FreeBSD, but lets not be so
dogmatic that we cannot see the need for a simple logo for the
project that can be used in places Beastie can't.
No one is saying you have to get rid of your Beastie tshirts etc :-)
Hopefully the similarity to the gamedaemons one listed earlier in
this thread is enough to jettison the new "winning" logo though, as
it is not easy to reproduce on any medium, is not memorable or
attention getting, and is all around boring.
best
Chad
Regards, Tim.
--- Danny Pansters <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
On Wednesday 2 November 2005 01:34, Steve Bertrand
wrote:
I understand the frustration and anger here, but
let's please think of
I don't have any frustration or anger. I just state
my opinion. I'm glad you
value it highly.
the newbies (people who are just joining in,
lurkers if you will) who
just want help.
We all have to make a conscious (sp?) effort to
kill this type of stuff.
Think back when y'all were newbies...is this the
type of stuff you'd
want to read?
I have to disagree. If any political or otherwise
"potentially hurtful"
content would have to be stripped from all the
mailing lists archives the
n00bs wouldn't be left with a lot of good advice.
It's a useless discussion
and laying the n00b ruler next to it will only make
things worse. We've never
ever censored anything, and I doubt we ever will in
the near future (let's
call that a definate NO). You should rethink what
you're asking for.
I can think of other *nix lists where people can
see this stuff as often
as they want. People come here for the
professionalism.
Who cares who contributed what. We're all in this
together, and my
idealism was we were here to help one another.
It's not about who contributed what at all in this
discussion.
We all know that we expect newbs to reply to the
list (as opposed to
just the original sender), but PLEASE, remove
fbsd-q from the reply-all
address when posting like this.
Not related. General discussions when started at
freebsd-questions sre fair
game at (grasp) freebsd-questions.
It's like a hockey game. Does the whole bench need
to be involved, or
can it be solved between a few players who are in
the kerfluffel?
You're babbling. Let me wake you up gently here.
What the heck is your point
dude?
Dan
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