On Jul 16, 2007, at 12:49 AM, Olivier Nicole wrote:

With the firewall, it is easy to make the use of the outgoing mail
hub compulsory.  Is there some reason beyond that that you want to do
things transparently?

Yes, I should have been a bit more specific. As university department,
we receive a number of visitors, when they have been in the plane for
24 hours, they usually want to check their email: each time we have to
inform them that they can only send through our mail gateway, and they
have to temporarily change their setting for the duration fo their
visit, and remember to change back when they left: that is annoying
(and I am not always around to tell them why they cannot send their
email).

That is why I am thinking about transparent redirection.

Thanks for elaborating on that. As others have suggested use redirection on your firewall to point them to your outgoing hub. I've never yet played with such redirection, so I'll leave it to others to comment, but the details will depend on what kind of firewall you are currently running.

I am wondering what will happen if these visitors' mail clients try to authenticate against your mail server. If your server does allow SMTP-AUTH than the clients, if configured to authenticate will attempt to as far as I understand. It might be worth doing some experiments to see how this works.

The "proper" solution to this would be for people to use the (new) SMTP submission mechanism on the submission port, but it appears that ISPs aren't doing enough to get their users to do things that way.

Good luck with this.

-j




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Jeffrey Goldberg                        http://www.goldmark.org/jeff/

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