On 03/13/12 02:14, Allen wrote:
On 3/11/2012 7:33 PM, Da Rock wrote:
On 03/11/12 21:03, ajtiM wrote:
On Saturday 10 March 2012 17:36:53 Da Rock wrote:
No system is actually truly capable of this, with the exception of the
newest kid on the block Plan9. Winblows, in its current form, is the
bastard love child of DOS and some black sheep cousin of Unix
(twice-removed), so its not happening there either; just some sleight of
hand tricks to partially achieve the result with a decrease of security
to boot.
Windows is a poorly made joke. We all know this deep down. Does no one
read Computer History? Microsoft was marketing Xenix before IBM said "We
need an OS that blows for a Computer that has similar power to a
calculator ten years from now" and Microsoft said "We can do that!"....
Well, we can BUY that.... Seattle Computer Products has this OS called
QDOS that is a rip off of CP/M and stands for "Quick Dirty Operating
System" if we buy that for a rip off price and rename it Disk Operating
System, even though it can't handle Disks anyway, we can use this!
IMO it is the Microsoft and CO. tactics how to eliminate concurency -
Unix,
Mac... They never tried to be better...
Hah! They didn't need to. The guys who designed Unix finally wound up
their work once ported, and then said "we can do a lot better now" and
Plan9 was born. The change was too dramatic for commerce to change for
supposedly little reward, and so Plan9 was left on the backburner while
a lot of its features were integrated into other *nix platforms (rc,
file based devices, etc).
Plan 9 is a record label started by Glenn Danzig. And a movie. As for
the OS, I don't care. They got it right with Unix years earlier, why
stop now?
You realise, of course, that a lot of things you take for granted on BSD
Unix was ported from Plan9? Yes, they got it right the first time. _And_
the second. People were impressed, but it would have taken too much
effort to change ingrained ways and habits.
AT&T didn't care about Unix until they were allowed to make money off
it, but the problem there, is that Berkeley got a copy of it, and some
Brilliant Hackers started working on it.
The CSRG at Berkeley did things that made more possible. Then they came
up with BSD, and, well, we're still using it Today. Many people would
consider 6 months to a year a long time in Computer terms, and 5 years
with the same OS, is considered damn good. So what does this say about BSD?
We're still using an OS that was born in 1969, changed in the 70s by the
Brilliance of Berkeley, and now still going strong after so long. That's
not only saying something, that's a Historical thing.
It is astounding. For around 20 years it hung around before they came up
with something new, 40 years on and its still going strong - cars don't
even last that long; or some buildings for that matter!
So in a way they did try to be better, but not exactly with the original
designers blessing. And Plan9 is still an immature child... shame.
Oh well. We don't really have to deal with DOS anymore, and FreeDOS has
done things even Microsoft couldn't buy their way through. Then we have
Windows, Linux, Unix, and of course, the other toys from other people.
I'd like BeOS to come back, but I'm quite happy with BSD and Linux.
Of course, if I won the Lotto or something, I'd re-design my House, and
turn this room into a true Computer Lab. My Wife and I both are into
Computers, and we both Love Unix. We'd buy sun Machines, Sparcs and, for
me, a full set of SGI Workstations and Servers. And I'd like them to be
running IRIX, except the new ones, I don't know what I'd use on those.
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