On Sun, 2003-12-21 at 06:22, Matthew Seaman wrote: > On Sat, Dec 20, 2003 at 11:13:23PM -0500, Trey Sizemore wrote: > > Just for clarification... > > > > The trade off I see with installing from CD vs. doing a minimal install > > is that when it comes time to upgrade it will cause more issues. > > > > By this I mean that if I do a minimal install and then later install > > from ports it will be more seamless than installing first from packages > > (like KDE, for example) and then trying to upgrade with ports later. > > > > Certainly packages from the CD would be installed quicker than having to > > build from ports, but at the cost of future upgrades. > > Actually, you'll be pleased to hear this is completely false. pkgs > and ports are closely related and there's no problem in installing a > package and then updating it via ports or vice versa. portupgrade(1) > even has the handy -P option to make that sort of thing easier. > > A pkg is nothing more than the result of compiling a port, bundled up > in a tar ball and with a few extra bits'n'bobs to help keep the > administrivia in line. You can build your own packages from the ports > tree simply by typing 'make package' in the appropriate port directory > -- although this will also install the port on your system. > > There are other reasons for doing a minimal install -- generally when > I'm installing a box, I usually want to jump to the latest -STABLE > rather than the -RELEASE version from the CDs, so I tend to do a > minimal install from CD, grab the cvsup-without-gui package off the > CDs or the 'net and from there grab the latest sources into an empty > /usr/src and start building. Similar treatment for ports -- instead > of installing the ports tree from CD, I find it's easier to just > cvsup(1) the whole tree starting with an empty directory. This works > well if you have a decent amount of bandwith, and it avoids the 'adopt > the ports tree into cvsup' problem as described in: > > http://www.cvsup.org/faq.html#caniadopt > http://www.cvsup.org/faq.html#adopt > > Cheers, > > Matthew
Thanks, just what I needed to find out. I had been doing some trial installations on a spare laptop over the last few weeks, and now I want to do an install on my primary desktop machine. The way I was going to do the install was: 1 - Perform the install (including X) and include the ports collection along with KDE. This from the 5.2 RC disc. 2 - Install and configure cvsup and portupgrade suing packages (pkg_add -r cvsup-without-gui and pkg_add -r portupgrade) 3 - Update my source tree and ports tree using cvsup and portupgrade (though not sure of the order here). 4 - Make buildworld, build kernel, install kernel, (REBOOT) and installworld. Run portupgrade -a. I assume it is somewhere in here that I would be able to include pcm support for my sound card. 5 - Then update the system to the packages I want. Any pointers or mention of glaring omissions is appreciated. -- Cheers, Trey --- The beauty of the soul shines out when a man bears with composure one heavy mischance after another, not because he does not feel them, but because he is a man of high and heroic temper. - Aristotle
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