At 2004-06-15T13:46:21Z, Matthew Seaman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> The fact that sysadmins generally don't know users' passwords, and have no
> practical means of finding them out if the user doesn't want them to know
> what it is.

Install and play with "john".  It was enlightening for me.

> Since the sysadmin doesn't know what the users' password is on the systems
> he admins, the user can safely use the same password on other systems with
> different admins.

For the sake of clarity, is that your belief, or are you explaining what
other peoples' opinions?
-- 
Kirk Strauser

"94 outdated ports on the box,
 94 outdated ports.
 Portupgrade one, an hour 'til done,
 82 outdated ports on the box."

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