I don't think there is such a thing as a trusted network. That is a unicorn these days.
If you are using ssh to connect to the VPN server itself over the VPN connection, I can see why that would be useless double encryption. However, if you are connecting to a server on the network on the other side of the VPN, I would still use ssh. No networks should be considered trusted. Here is a great article about Beyond Corp, a Google project based on the idea that trusted networks do not exist in reality, and that systems need to be built with this in mind. https://static.googleusercontent.com/media/research.google.com/en//pubs/archive/43231.pdf On Tue, Nov 10, 2015 at 8:41 PM, John-Mark Gurney <[email protected]> wrote: > Bryan Drewery wrote this message on Tue, Nov 10, 2015 at 16:32 -0800: > > On 11/10/15 9:52 AM, John-Mark Gurney wrote: > > > My vote is to remove the HPN patches. First, the NONE cipher made more > > > sense back when we didn't have AES-NI widely available, and you were > > > seriously limited by it's performance. Now we have both aes-gcm and > > > chacha-poly which it's performance should be more than acceptable for > > > today's uses (i.e. cipher performance is 2GB/sec+). > > > > AES-NI doesn't help the absurdity of double-encrypting when using scp or > > rsync/ssh over an encrypted VPN, which is where NONE makes sense to use > > for me. > > Different layers of protection... > > Do you disable all encryption when you're transiting trusted networks > like your VPN? If you don't, why is that ssh session so special? > > -- > John-Mark Gurney Voice: +1 415 225 5579 > > "All that I will do, has been done, All that I have, has not." > _______________________________________________ > [email protected] mailing list > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-security > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[email protected] > " > _______________________________________________ [email protected] mailing list https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-security To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[email protected]"
