Robert Noland wrote:
On Sun, 2009-02-01 at 14:10 -0800, Joe Kelsey wrote:
Sebastien Chassot wrote:
On Sun, 2009-02-01 at 17:19 +0000, Daniel Bye wrote:
On Sun, Feb 01, 2009 at 05:42:39PM +0100, Sebastien Chassot wrote:
Hi,
I've upgrade to xorg7.4 and apparently keyboard and mouse are now
working with hald.
In xorg.conf changing "old" keybord config as no effect and I can't find
how change it with hal. I've got /usr/local/etc/hal/fdi/* but no
*keymap* and I don't know how build such a file.
This should get you started:
<?xml version="1.0" encoding="ISO-8859-1"?>
<deviceinfo version="0.2">
<device>
<match key="info.capabilities" contains="input.keyboard">
<merge key="input.xkb.layout" type="string">gb</merge>
</match>
</device>
</deviceinfo>
Change the `gb' in the example to your local keymap name, save the file
as /usr/local/etc/hal/fdi/policy/x11-input.fdi and restart hald.
This seems to have a way to enable HAL to detect a keyboard and export
it to X, but what about mice? My Xorg log tells me that it is ignoring
my USB mouse in addition to ignoring my keyboard, so what sort of HAL
file do I add to enable it to find my mouse?
The above is only to set keyboard layout, everything to detect the
keyboard is already present.
Where in HAL documentation is this information found? R. Noland seemed
to think it was a trivial process to make HAL do keyboards and mice? In
fact it is not trivial but a pain in the ass! If you intend to inflict
broken software on unsuspecting users you had better think through all
of the problems and come up with explicit solutions to all of those
problems so that everyone has a chance to make their systems work.
We (marcus and I) have gone to great pains to try and ensure that hal
behaves correctly in pretty much all mice configurations with or without
sysmouse. If you don't want to use hal, set AutoAddDevices off and
configure away.
I did my best to follow ALL of the posted directions to absolutely NO AVAIL.
When I start Xorg, it explicitly tells me it is disabling all automatic
devices and refuses to use HAL or any other detectable methosd to find
the mouse and/or keyboard.
There is no documentation ANYWHERE about how HAL is supposed to help in
any of this. There is no documentation ANYWHERE about what exaqctly the
new Xorg is supposed to do about it. There is no documentation ANYWHERE
about the new, secret, hidden options that you can put in your xorg.conf
file to disable this whole HAL mess.
The only documentation available ANYWHERE is the skimpy little paragraph
that says, it works or it doesn't. No explanation about why it works or
doesn't or how to determine exactly what might be wrong in your
configuration to make it work or not work.
I would not compalin if you actually documented what you are inflicting
on us rather than just say, here it is, good luck! I understand how
difficult some of these port upgrades are, but you have to realize that
you have not provided ANY resources that anyone else can use to help
themselves figure out their issues.
I don't want to pay you with money I do not have from a job I do not
have. You have to realize how many people may or may not have problems
due to your blithe posting of this complicated mess. Either explain how
to use HAL properly to configure X resources or disable the capability.
Thank you for all of your effort so far. I really do appreciate it.
/Joe
There had better not be any more surprises waiting in the X 1.6 wings to
surprise and confound everyone again!
Are you going to stop paying me? You have no idea how many combinations
of hardware and configurations for X exist, or the amount of wok that
goes into making all of those combinations work.
robert.
I'll start with that
Thank you
Sebastien
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