Michelle Sullivan
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> On 03 May 2019, at 20:09, Borja Marcos via freebsd-stable 
> <freebsd-stable@freebsd.org> wrote:
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>> On 3 May 2019, at 11:55, Pete French <petefre...@ingresso.co.uk> wrote:
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>>> On 03/05/2019 08:09, Borja Marcos via freebsd-stable wrote:
>>> 
>>> The right way to use disks is to give ZFS access to the plain CAM devices, 
>>> not thorugh some so-called JBOD on a RAID
>>> controller which, at least for a long time, has been a *logical* “RAID0” 
>>> volume on a single disk. That additional layer can
>>> completely break the semantics of transaction writes and cache flushes.
>>> With some older cards it can be tricky to achieve, from patching source 
>>> drivers to enabling a sysctl tunable or even
>>> flashing the card to turn it into a plain HBA with no RAID features (or 
>>> minimal ones).
>> 
>> Oddly enough I got bitten by something like this yesteray. I have a machine 
>> containing an HP P400 RAID controller, which is nice enough, but I run ZFS 
>> so I have made the drives all into RAID-0 as being as close as I can get to 
>> accessing the raw SAS drives.

I got bitten by that on this hardware originally...  switching to raid-0 and 
separate drives then switching to write-through (not write back and definitely 
not write back with bad bbu) seemed to solve it.

Michelle

>> 
>> BSD seems them as da0, da1, da2, da3 - but the RAID controller oly presents 
>> one of them to the BIOS, so my booting has to be all from that drive. This 
>> has been da0 for as long as I can remember, but yesteday it decided to start 
>> using what BSD sees as da1. Of course this is very hard to recognise as da0 
>> and da1 are pretty much mirrors of each other. Spent a long time trying to 
>> work out why the fixes I was applying to da0 were not being used at boot 
>> time.
> 
> Hmm What happens when you do a “camcontrol devlist”?
> 
> Camcontrol tags da0 -v?
> 
> How is the controller recognized by FreeBSD? For some of them it’s possible 
> to instruct the controller to present the physical devices to CAM. Of course
> you need to be careful to avoid any logical volume configuration in that 
> case. 
> 
> But I would only tinker with this at system installation time, making such a 
> change on a running system with valid data can be disastrous.
> 
> For mfi recognized cards there is a tunable: hw.mfi.allow_cam_disk_passthrough
> 
> For aac cards it was a matter of commenting a couple of source code lines in 
> the driver (at your own risk of course). I’ve been running a 
> server for years doing that.
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> Borja.
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