Alexandre "Sunny" Kovalenko wrote:
On Sun, 2008-01-06 at 23:58 +0100, Johannes Dieterich wrote:
On 1/6/08, Henrik Brix Andersen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
On Sun, Jan 06, 2008 at 10:26:48PM +0100, Johannes Dieterich wrote:
X and T series of the thinkpads are rather different, even the cores are
completely different (I have a dualcore low-voltage version, I assume
yours is running on a dual Pentium m, or?).
FWIW, I haven't seen any temperature related issues on my ThinkPad
X60s, which has been tracking -CURRENT for the last year or so.
It too has had the IPW3945 replaced by an Atheros wireless card, but
it is still using the original HDD.
Can the HDD change already cause such a thing? Besides that: I have not
configured anything myself concerning ACPI. Anyone any idea what/where/how
to check? I DO think that the fan is working. I can hear it (and it does not
sound ill) and it also shows in
$ sysctl dev.acpi_ibm
dev.acpi_ibm.0.%desc: IBM ThinkPad ACPI Extras
dev.acpi_ibm.0.%driver: acpi_ibm
dev.acpi_ibm.0.%location: handle=\_SB_.PCI0.LPC_.EC__.HKEY
dev.acpi_ibm.0.%pnpinfo: _HID=IBM0068 _UID=0
dev.acpi_ibm.0.%parent: acpi0
dev.acpi_ibm.0.initialmask: 2060
dev.acpi_ibm.0.availmask: 16777215
dev.acpi_ibm.0.events: 0
dev.acpi_ibm.0.eventmask: 2060
dev.acpi_ibm.0.hotkey: 1443
dev.acpi_ibm.0.lcd_brightness: 0
dev.acpi_ibm.0.volume: 9
dev.acpi_ibm.0.mute: 0
dev.acpi_ibm.0.thinklight: 0
dev.acpi_ibm.0.bluetooth: 0
dev.acpi_ibm.0.wlan: 1
dev.acpi_ibm.0.fan_speed: 4071
dev.acpi_ibm.0.fan_level: 0
dev.acpi_ibm.0.fan: 1
dev.acpi_ibm.0.thermal: 62 61 -1 58 43 -1 40 -1
Now not being touched at all for an hour and just idling around. Besides it
did work under 6.2 without problems, would be a crazy coincident if right
with the update the fan broke.
Any idea anyone? :S
First -- the disclaimer -- mine is X60 (not X60s), but with 1.83GHz
32-bit CPU, so it should be somewhat similar to yours. At the moment it
has USB drivers loaded, which tends to bump CPU utilization and
temperature. It has UltraBase attached and is sitting on top of the
aluminum passive cooler pad.
It was bought originally with the Atheros card and 100GB drive and 1GB
of memory was added later to the total of 2GB.
System is -CURRENT as of January 5th 18:00 EST. This laptop was tracking
-CURRENT pretty close since I have acquired it 15 month ago. It does
buildwords with -j5 at least weekly.
At the moment, I am writing this E-mail and playing some music, using
Amarok. It is on the wired network ATM, but I do not recall any thermal
problems while using wireless connection.
dev.acpi_ibm.0.%desc: IBM ThinkPad ACPI Extras
dev.acpi_ibm.0.%driver: acpi_ibm
dev.acpi_ibm.0.%location: handle=\_SB_.PCI0.LPC_.EC__.HKEY
dev.acpi_ibm.0.%pnpinfo: _HID=IBM0068 _UID=0
dev.acpi_ibm.0.%parent: acpi0
dev.acpi_ibm.0.initialmask: 2060
dev.acpi_ibm.0.availmask: 16777215
dev.acpi_ibm.0.events: 0
dev.acpi_ibm.0.eventmask: 2060
dev.acpi_ibm.0.hotkey: 133
dev.acpi_ibm.0.lcd_brightness: 0
dev.acpi_ibm.0.volume: 7
dev.acpi_ibm.0.mute: 0
dev.acpi_ibm.0.thinklight: 0
dev.acpi_ibm.0.bluetooth: 1
dev.acpi_ibm.0.wlan: 1
dev.acpi_ibm.0.fan_speed: 2874
dev.acpi_ibm.0.fan_level: 0
dev.acpi_ibm.0.fan: 1
dev.acpi_ibm.0.thermal: 62 52 -1 61 39 -1 37 -1
RabbitsDen# sysctl -a | grep temperature
hw.acpi.thermal.tz0.temperature: 62.0C
hw.acpi.thermal.tz1.temperature: 62.0C
dev.cpu.0.temperature: 63 // You need coretemp.ko loaded
dev.cpu.1.temperature: 63 // to get these values.
RabbitsDen#
I does look shade cooler then yours, and fan is running at the lower
speed.
I will try to list things that I do/have done, and you can compare them
to your setup:
-- BIOS is updated to the latest level (I do keep XP partition for this
specific purpose).
-- I run powerd:
powerd_enable="YES"
powerd_flags="-a adaptive -b adaptive -i 75 -r 65"
-- I set hw.pci.do_power_nodriver="3" in /boot/loader.conf
-- I run GNOME (please, no religious wars here)
-- I set low CPU state to C2 in rc.conf
performance_cx_lowest="C2" # Online CPU idle state
economy_cx_lowest="C2" # Offline CPU idle state
I could not think of anything else related to the temperature, ATM.
Thanks,
Johannes
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62C looks awfully high for playing music and writing emails. I have a
Thinkpad T43 (and T40) and it usually stays between 40-50C while doing
those types of things. When its building world, I get around 70C and
usually no higher.
I do notice, however, that FreeBSD seemed to never use the fan to its
potential on any of the Thinkpads I've used (T40 for 3 years, T43 for 3
years). Comparably, Windows XP would rev the fan far higher than even
setting 'dev.acpi_ibm.0.fan_level=7' when under load. The fan can
certainly work faster (even when booting FreeBSD, its audibly
faster)...but 7 is the highest level acpi_ibm allows one to set.
Here's my dev.acpi_ibm on a T43
dev.acpi_ibm.0.fan_speed: 4677
dev.acpi_ibm.0.fan_level: 7
dev.acpi_ibm.0.fan: 0
dev.acpi_ibm.0.thermal: 44 42 33 47 33 -1 24 -1
Using dev.acpi_ibm.0.fan=1 yields similar results, but the fan runs quieter.
Best Regards,
Nathan Lay
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