on 07/07/2012 11:20 David Chisnall said the following: > On 6 Jul 2012, at 23:29, Andriy Gapon wrote: > >> I think that this is a dummy argument. One could easily want his LOCALBASE >> to >> be /opt and the real ports system should support that. So what ports >> currently >> do, they really have to do (assuming $LOCALBASE as opposed to /usr/local). > > That's completely irrelevant. If a user installs things in a non-standard > location, then that user should expect to have to point things that they > build from source at that non-standard location. If, however, a user > installs things in the standard location, then this should Just Work. > > The workflow that I have seen where this fails: > > - User runs ./configure > - Configure script says 'libpng is not installed!' > - User installs libpng from ports / packages > - User runs ./configure > - Configure script says 'libpng is not installed!' > - User sends me an email asking why they can't install on FreeBSD, usually > including a small whine that this works on their favourite Linux distro. > - I tell the user 'Oh, you need to say --with-png-include=/usr/local/include > --with-png-lib=/usr/local/lib' > - User says 'Why doesn't the compiler that FreeBSD ships know where to find > headers and libraries that FreeBSD installs?' > - I shrug.
So we talked about different things: creating/maintaining ports vs manually building software outside of port system. > I assumed this was done for a sensible reason, but so far no one has actually > said what that reason is. In an ideal world, the system compiler should be > able to automatically find any headers and libraries installed by any > supported mechanism (ports, pkg_add, pkg add), but in an almost-ideal world > it should at least find them if they are in the default locations. I agree. -- Andriy Gapon _______________________________________________ freebsd-toolchain@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-toolchain To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-toolchain-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"