Hi,

On Tue, 2008-10-28 at 19:40 +0200, Marko Lindqvist wrote:
>  I run update-po for S2_1 and TRUNK again in case some of you cannot
> or don't want to do it yourself.
>
>  We don't have S2_2 at the moment. S2_2 branch we had earlier is again
> TRUNK (and old TRUNK has been removed).

>> http://www.cazfi.net/freeciv/translations/

Many thanks for the merging service and updates, Marko! Updates on the
translator list is a nice way to get a flag of hmmm, maybe I should do
something about that translation again... X-) And the easy access to
up-to-date po files is a lifesaver!

This time round I had a moment of idle time so it worked too; I took it
to push back general entropy in S2_1 and a smaller bit in TRUNK (on some
things that looked to be different there). 

The updated po files are in 
http://www.cs.helsinki.fi/u/ruohomaa/po/fi.po.s2_1.gz  and
http://www.cs.helsinki.fi/u/ruohomaa/po/fi.po.trunk.gz
respectively, if someone cares to commit them for me. <3 I ran msgfmt -v
-c on them; assuming we don't have other check scripts that should be
run.

I can't see an easy way to sync translations between two branches given
the two updated po files only; I'm under the impression that if I had an
up-to-date pot file as well, I could do (given that s2_1 is the primary
source of up-to-date translations) something like:

msgmerge --compendium=fi.po.s2_1 fi.po.trunk freeciv.pot.trunk -o
fi.po.newtrunk

to both transfer missing translations from stable to trunk, and prune
out translations that aren't actually needed in the trunk branch. 

With this in mind, would it be possible to have in the cazfi website
also the freeciv.pot file the merges were based on? Should the site also
maybe be linked to from the Freeciv localization instructions, or does
it want to be more private (if you're not sure if you want to upkeep it
regularly, you can always throw in a "last updated" date)? 
http://freeciv.wikia.com/wiki/Localization


As for the Finnish translation, looks like we've caught up with the old
translation rot for this year now (4 more messages translated than in
December), and have ca. 100 more translated messages compared to the
situation in June. Circa 570 messages to go in stable according to
msgfmt (server techspeak and manual entries for the win...), a more
depressing 1170 in trunk (which could probably also use a merge from
stable again).

Is there any plan yet for how long we have until the next major stable
release gets branched out? I was mildly inspired by how the olden golden
2.0 actually appeared to be close to 100% translated back in the summer
(thanks for throwing the occasional translation statistics on the list
btw, Daniel, they're a motivator too). Maybe it wouldn't be completely
impossible to massacre the remaining 570 unmessages a bit at a time and
feel all warm and unfuzzy up until 2.2 branches out? Especially given
the considerable increase to translator effectiveness with our splendid
merge service!

Timo, I also added a comment to the trunk po file that we're
prioritizing the stable branch, since I always forget and go dig in old
emails for it. (And the klikkaa->napsauta cleanup todo in the stable
file's comments.) Header comments are the best place to leave todo items
at the moment, I figure. Wanna take the GUI out for a spin some day
again? :)

It's great to see Freeciv still gets regular releases, by the way! It's
reached quite a respectable age by now, and from what brief glances I
manage to take at it, the thing keeps getting better and slicker. I
still seem to remember a time when getting sounds (at all) or a SECOND
tileset would have been totally awesome, not to mention getting around
to playing without starting the server and client separately based on
this README doc. Can't remember if the main talk about AI players back
then was on getting the first ones made or getting them to behave at all
sanely though; Freeciv's always been strongest at network play. ;)

--Sini, a lurking old translator (and 90s Civ addict)


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