> I wonder weather Eben Moglen uses FreedomBox and what does he think of it. > I also wonder why FreedomBox is all about self-hosting, but it does not > host itself.
Agreed. > itself and does not rely on Debian infrastructure for everything. I also think the project would benefit from including packages which aren't packaged in Debian: lots of web services are very painful to package for Debian, so those who are tend to be those that are rather old and don't change much any more. This is not a criticism of Debian since in most cases the problem is in the lack of support from upstream which uses lots and lots of unclearly labeled libraries, which change very often with poor backward compatibility, ... So those "non-Debian packages" would need to be packaged differently (maybe via something like Docker). IIUC this is considered out of scope for FreedomBox, sadly. > Relying on Debian infrastructure, from the technical point of view, is > not much different than relying on Google infrastructure. Not at all: while the source of the software is centralized (Debian's servers), each FreedomBox works completely independently from Debian's infrastructure (except maybe for a few minor details like the debian.pool.ntp.org servers). For example, your FreedomBox can work just fine on an intranet with no connection to any part of the Internet. None of the data managed by your FreedomBox is exposed to Debian's servers, ... It's technically *very* different from using Google services. > Who can guaranty that one day Microsoft will not acquire Debian as it > acquired Ubuntu and GitHub? [ I don't think Microsoft acquired Ubuntu (yet), except maybe on an April's fool. ] Even if Microsoft ever acquires Debian (which probably wouldn't make much commercial sense and would encounter various difficulties, but is admittedly theoretically possible) that won't directly give them access to any information about your FreedomBox and the the data of yours it manages. Of course, they could theoretically then install package updates which introduce backdoors and whatnot, but there'd be a fair bit of time for the FreedomBox project to fork or to switch to another provider before that happens. Stefan _______________________________________________ Freedombox-discuss mailing list Freedombox-discuss@alioth-lists.debian.net https://alioth-lists.debian.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/freedombox-discuss