Stillyet I'd be very interested in that. On Sun, Feb 27, 2011 at 11:57 PM, [email protected] < [email protected]> wrote:
> I don't think so at all. It would be very easy to code a Tahrir node as a > Midlet (and indeed I intend to). Very cheap phones run Midlets these days, > and within a very few years it will be only exceptional phones which won't > run something like this. > > Sorry for top posting, this is sent from my phone. > > On 28 Feb 2011 00:00, "Matt Joyce" <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > That would be perfect but integrating with cheap cellular phones as > opposed to 600 dollar phones may prove difficult. > > > > -Matt > > > > On Sun, Feb 27, 2011 at 3:29 PM, [email protected] < > [email protected]> wrote: > >> > >> On 27 February 2011 21:37, Anthony Papillion <[email protected]> > wrote: > >>> > >>> So I've been thinking about the recent Internet situation in Egypt > where > >>> the Mubarak government shut down the Internet in that country and I'm > >>> wondering how the Freedom Box could have helped there. > >>> > >>> As I understand it, Freedom Boxes are able to communicate directly with > >>> each other. But since this requires a network connection, what happens > >>> if the network is turned off? Now, I can see how the boxes would > >>> continue to work if the network disconnect simply capped it at national > >>> borders (intra-country communication between boxes would not be > >>> affected) but what happens if the entire network both is truly shut off > >>> and there is NO INTERNET either within the country or past borders? > >>> > >>> Are there contingency plans being built into the box for this scenario? > >>> What are the options for handling something like this? Is anyone > >>> currently working on this area? > >> > >> > >> Ian Clarke ('Sanity', of FreeNet fame) is working on a distributed > Twitter-replacement called Tahrir; he's very interested in making it cope > well with network disruption and he and I have discussed how > store-and-forward could be integrated into its architecture. > >> > >> The user-story I put to him was this: > >> > >> "Consider this user story. The protesters are in the square, and people > are being shot. Ali takes a picture of a dying woman and posts it to Tahrir. > Because all the Internet connections are down, his message doesn't make it > out of the square. Bahiya is also in the square. Her phone is in her > pocket, and she never takes it out. She leaves the square and goes to the > airport, where she gives her phone to a tourist fleeing the country. The > tourist flies home. Bahiya's phone is now able to communicate with other > Tahrir nodes, and passes on all the posts it has collected - including Ali's > photograph. Bahiya has never met Ali. She didn't see the person killed. > Bahiya hasn't done anything at all with her phone - she hasn't had > to. Store-and-forward technology built into her Tahrir client implementation > has automatically collected the messages generated in the square and has > held them until it can pass them on." > >> > >> Ian's response is that pictures are an inefficient thing to handle when > bandwidth is critical, which is true, but he took on board that the > highest-bandwidth way out of an area where network access is cut or > monitored may be by physically moving some actual store. > >> > >> I'm proposing to co-operate with Ian on his project, but I'd like to do > it in such a way that the store-and-forward layer could subsequently be > adapted to work with e.g. Diaspora. > >> > >> Cheers > >> > >> Simon > >> > >> https://github.com/sanity/tahrir > >> > >> -- > >> Simon Brooke :: http://www.journeyman.cc/~simon/ > >> > >> ;; Semper in faecibus sumus, sole profundum variat. > >> > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Freedombox-discuss mailing list > >> [email protected] > >> http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/freedombox-discuss > >> > > >
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