>From Jay: Sent from my iPhone On Jun 22, 2011, at 7:01, [email protected] wrote:
> Send Freedombox-discuss mailing list submissions to > [email protected] > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/freedombox-discuss > > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > [email protected] > > You can reach the person managing the list at > [email protected] > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Freedombox-discuss digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Rouge Freedomboxes and government intervention > (Jonas Smedegaard) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2011 11:34:29 +0200 > From: Jonas Smedegaard <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [Freedombox-discuss] Rouge Freedomboxes and government > intervention > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > On 11-06-22 at 09:08am, [email protected] wrote: >> On Tue, Jun 21, 2011 at 09:37:35PM +0200, Jonas Smedegaard wrote: >>> I want to address the problem of central logging of the activities >>> of the masses _separately_ from the more complex problem of >>> activists needing secrecy, anonymity and other powerful features. >>> Because the first is easier and quicker solved than the second. And >>> because the first helps solve the second! >> >> And my point was to say that this separation (even explained again >> like this, which was the way I understood your first mail), isn't this >> obvious. Users are not so clearly divided in "the one who cares", and >> "the one who don't" and helping "the one who don't" won't just so >> obviously helps the others. At least it isn't a reason not to think >> and prepare all use cases. > > We should continuously have all possible use cases in mind, but > prioritize those easy to provide rather than those with most direct > benefit for users involved in most obvious freedom-enabling activities. > > Both segments care, else they don't buy FreedomBox at all. > > Example: Karla is increasingly frustrated with her government, is > politically active, and may start an uprising in 3 months. Joanna is > supportive of political activism but is more into partying and chasing > guys, not willing to get up on the barricades. Joanna and Karla both > want a FreedomBox. FreedomBox-dating already exist in Debian testing, > but FreedomBox-stealth is still so flaky it is not even packaged for > Debian yet. > > Do we then... > > a) release FreedomBox 1.0 in 6 months with -dating only, > and FreedomBox 2.0 in maybe 1 year with -stealth added, > prioritizing all parts being reliable and maintainable. > b) release FreedomBox 1.0 in 6 months with -dating and -stealth, > prioritizing urgent features for urgent matters (even if flaky > and perhaps even dangerous for Karla to use). > c) release FreedomBox 1.0 in 1 month with -dating and -stealth, > prioritizing urgent features for urgent matters (even if flaky > and perhaps even dangerous for both Karla and Joanna to use). > > > > > - Jonas > > -- > * Jonas Smedegaard - idealist & Internet-arkitekt > * Tlf.: +45 40843136 Website: http://dr.jones.dk/ > > [x] quote me freely [ ] ask before reusing [ ] keep private > -------------- next part -------------- > A non-text attachment was scrubbed... > Name: signature.asc > Type: application/pgp-signature > Size: 836 bytes > Desc: Digital signature > URL: > <http://lists.alioth.debian.org/pipermail/freedombox-discuss/attachments/20110622/3981b3d3/attachment-0001.pgp> > > ------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Freedombox-discuss mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/freedombox-discuss > > End of Freedombox-discuss Digest, Vol 11, Issue 42 > ************************************************** _______________________________________________ Freedombox-discuss mailing list [email protected] http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/freedombox-discuss
