Danilo,
> Sorry, but I think you're too snippy here. 

> First of all, if the idea of an 80x25 single file editor frightens
> you, you're either a wimp or too young to have done any programming
> when that was the norm.

my first 'editor' were punched cards.

next came a single line editor (TECO on a PDP10), roughly comparable
to EDLIN. that was a HUGE improvement. I would never go back to
punched cards.


next came a full screen 25*80 editor; first VI on UNIX, with HJKL
cursor movement commands. that was a HUGE improvement. I would never go back to
EDLIN.

now it's two 28 inch monitors, with google search, RBIL, editor,
program output and debugger all living nicely side by side.
that was a HUGE improvement. I would never go back to
single screen 25x80. FOR DEVELOPEMENT!


> May I introduce you to Turbo Pascal 3.0? 80x25 text is the best there is.
Turbo Pascal was really impressive. in 1990.

> Programming 'something useful' is a subjective term. If you program
> on FreeDOS, you are by definition programming for a fringe audience,

you obviously don't understand the difference between 'programming on'
and 'programming for'.
and I simply want to have the best tools possible when programming for
FreeDOS.


even if your hoppy is a steam engine, you don't use steam age tools to
take care of your steam engine. you use probably electric drills and
go by car to find spare parts, not on horse back.





> For me, FreeDos allows me to go back to the days when programming
> was actually a testament to your skills, rather than just being able
> to cobble a few lines of code together and nail a GUI on it by 
> click-and-point. 

for a start: why don't you show us your slide show program for DOS,
using any tools you like.

talk is cheap...

Tom



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