Hi Ralf, developers,
>> (Eric emailed me off-list, but this is generally interesting/useful so >> I am replying to the list) > > I don't know why Eric started doing this, this completely rips apart any > threads or discussions... :( The main topic of my off-list exchange with Jim was something else: Jack not wanting to add UPC read support to UDVD2, being upset about Jim hinting at a compatibility problem with UDVD2 after my OAKCDROM comparison, where I suspected that Lukas' copy protected games might be looking for UPC data, which is one of the notable differences between both drivers. Whether UPC checks make sense for those games is VERY questionable, but they still are something I would like to be tested by some DOS gamers. So while discussing this personal topic off-list, I had brought up the point what Jack's drivers WOULD be able to have a FAR lower DOS memory footprint if FreeDOS had better HMA and UMB compatibility to MS DOS and other DOS brands. Which is a problem which has been known for years. Those features in his drivers work well, but you can not enjoy them on FreeDOS. DEVLOAD can be a workaround in few cases. So we are missing out on existing features of the drivers because OUR side, necessary kernel features, are missing. Our utter lack of progress supporting his OLD features made him have no plans to add NEW "gamer" features to UDVD2. That brought me to the topic of our sourceforge trackers being of very little use in the current state. And THAT is what Jim had then forwarded to the list, starting this thread here. As you can see, my original mail was to Jim and Jeremy, also in context of bad mood caused by his sudden kernel and shell update finalization, without enough previous discussion. As the question whether Jeremy should be reminded off-list about the HMA / UMB issue could be answered by "Not needed, he answered my hint on-list", I felt like thanking Jeremy for that and telling Jim that the sourceforge tracker bothers me. So I wrote the the mail shown below. For the sake of completeness, you can now read my full mail to Jim & Jeremy quoted here. Enjoy! I think sharing this information would not have been necessary as a basis for discussing our tracker lists here on the mailinglist, but it would have been more obvious if I had started the list thread myself without first mentioning it to Jim and Jeremy outside the list. As you can see, I had explicitly suggested to start a discussion about the trackers on the mailing list and you have not really missed much before Jim did just that. Regards, Eric > Hi Jim and Jeremy, >>> As you can see, I have mentioned the topic on the mailing list, >>> both the HMA and UMB aspects. I really expect Jeremy to be one >>> of the readers of our lists, even if he fails to "think aloud" >>> about all the lonely work he is doing for kernel and shell. Of >>> course I do know his private email address as well. > As you can see, Jeremy has already replied to that on the list >> For example, I entered this FreeCOMbug in the tracker and Jeremy >> already replied that he's looking at it: >> https://sourceforge.net/p/freedos/bugs/310/ > I think it would be a lot better to use the github/gitlab trackers > for all projects which already have their code hosted there. At > least those allow tracking bugs separately per package. The global > freedos tracker on sourceforge is really pointless given that it > just is one, completely unsorted, write-only pile of old reports > mixed across all the apps here. > > So if there is a method to copy most tickets to package-specific > systems, maybe using a script, that would be really appreciated. > > Jerome has made separate git packages for many DOS apps, unless > those already had git or other repositories elsewhere already. > > Feel free to continue this discussion on the lists, of course. > > Regards, Eric _______________________________________________ Freedos-devel mailing list Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel
