Hi Tom, Alain,

> whatever 'ready' means when nobody (except you self)
> tested it so far.

While there were no official sourceforge file releases,
there are updated versions on the rugxulo distro page
http://rugxulo.googlepages.com/ and I did mention those
on our lists from time to time. His homepage contains a
small diskette distro with FreeDOS BASE and mixed other
free open source goodies, available as zips and as disk
images, as well as mixed useful DOS downloads such as
the mentioned FreeDOS kernel snapshots :-).

In other words, the SVN snapshot kernel is part of the
only useable diskette distro of FreeDOS after 0.9sr2,
the Rugxulo distro :-). PROBLEM with the Rugxulo distro
is that it still does not provide a download of all the
sources in one file. ADVANTAGE of the Rugxulo distro is
that it provides all of FreeDOS BASE and is so up to date
that it is basically a prerelease of FreeDOS 1.1 :-). Of
course the Joris 1.0 single diskette distro is also nice
but that one is tuned towards running on 8086, so there
is no 286/386/newer specific stuff available in it.

Note that there is also a "classic FreeDOS 1.0" diskette
distro, but this contributed distro is 88 diskettes, but
you can install BASE using the first 4 diskettes - which
are 1680 kilobytes each. The 2-3 diskettes of the Rugxulo
distro are simply 1440 kilobytes each... Actually I would
appreciate it if somebody made a single 2880 kilobyte image
from it, then people could use it for bootable CD/DVD :-).

Note that the Rugxulo distro is just a FreeDOS which WORKS,
not a FreeDOS which has to be INSTALLED on a harddisk. You
can install the Rugxulo distro with SYS and some XCOPY ;-).



www.ibiblio.org/pub/micro/pc-stuff/freedos/files/distributions/unofficial/floppy/
http://rugxulo.googlepages.com/ (Rugxulo 8086 and 386+, 2-3 disk distro)
http://www.xs4all.nl/~rjoris/freedos.html (Joris 8086, 1 disk distro)



> in the good old times, we had a couple of prereleases,

In the good old times - yes. Today it is even very hard
to discuss any patch at all. Typically somebody writes
me off-list about a bug, I write a patch, unless that
patch is totally obvious I then describe it on freedos-
kernel and ask for comments...

...and then nobody replies for a week so I assume that
everybody is happy with the patch and I move on. Still
suggestions for a more elaborate way of releasing the
FreeDOS 2038 kernel are okay. With one exception: I do
not want to wait until N people have commented/tested/
whatever, because that might take forever. Waiting time
is only acceptable if defined in terms of time, where
time is relatively SHORT. Otherwise we end up having
a release cycle of more than 2 years per version :-(.

> and also of post release fixes. the times they are a-changing

Yes. Now nobody even knows how to reach Jeremy. Unless
you want to give his snailmail address a try, maybe...



> the latest published kernel on ibiblio, freedos 1.0, etc.
> www.ibiblio.org/pub/micro/pc-stuff/freedos/files/dos/kernel/2036/
> is from august 2006.

I believe that this is because Jim only posts official releases
on ibiblio, and the first official release after 1.0 will be 2038?

At least there were no requests from anybody to publish any
sort of prerelease of kernel 2038, and I certainly did tell
about the wish to make an official kernel 2038 file release,
probably on this list, and in quite clear words. Would not
be surprised if I started doing so over a year ago...

Anyway. No use to keep complaining about the past. The point is
that quite a few patches have accumulated, none of which are
very revolutionary. They are rather evolutionary, gradually
bringing the kernel into better shape over the last two years.

The updated kernel exists in actual distros, outside compile-
your-own-svn-snapshot places for the geekish :-). So there is
some actual experience with this kernel... Nobody complained,
but some told the kernel fixes problems for them. Fair enough.

I think the current kernel certainly is a good thing to release.
If there are post release fixes, fine. But if you had wanted
several pre releases, you should have asked one year ago.

Eric



PS, reply to Alain "That is a good idea, Eric, why not redase a 2038rc1"
Answer: http://www.coli.uni-saarland.de/~eric/christian.zip actually IS
a release candidate for 2038. *Please test it everybody.* I planned to
change only the version string from "Christian" to "2038" to make 2038.


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