FWIW, LFN was an integral part of WordPerfect 5.1 - which predates MS win9x by 
quite a few years.

The USPTO's just committing gratuitous fraud.  Which is to say, there can be 
no excuse for such malfeasance.

Wesley Parish

On Wed, 11 Jan 2006 15:02, Eric Auer wrote:
> Hi Shane and others,
> http://www.microsoft.com/mscorp/ip/tech/fat.asp
> is very old news. As discussed on our topica mailing
> list on 5 December 2003 (yes, twok and three), the
> three mentioned patents are all about long file name
> processing only. MS wants money from people who build
> USB memory sticks and digithingies which use FAT on
> memory cards, and tries to make the vendors believe
> that this is about FAT32 (well, maybe MS stopped to
> do that by now), but actually it is about LFN.
>
> This is probably the reason why my pocket mp3 player
> device only shows ID3 tags and short file names but
> no long file names. The vendor would have had to pay
> 25 cents per device to MS otherwise...
>
> http://www.microsoft.com/whdc/hwdev/download/hardware/fatgen103.pdf
> (of year 2000) contains some comment / license info telling
> that EFI / boot stuff may use FAT anyway, same for diagnostics,
> and same for "manufacture, install and setup any hardware, firmware
> or operating system software". Well maybe they only meant you can
> compile Linux on FAT disks, but I guess it ended up meaning that
> they cannot complain now about Linux being able to mount/use FAT disks...)
>
> As said, patents #5,579,517 #5,758,352 #6,286,013 are about
> long file names. See the 2003 Topica archives ;-).
>
> FAT32 is not sufficiently different to FAT16 imho and FAT16
> is more than 20 years old by now. Patents ought to expire.
> As there is, uhm, "ongoing development" in FAT world, the
> patents for new features might also support a longer lifespan
> for the 80s FAT12/FAT16 patents, who knows. But that would
> be sufficiently ridiculous...
>
> Eric
>
>
>
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