Gerry Hickman wrote:
> 
> OK, let's agree it's just a shell for a minute; why would anyone want to 
> start it from within FreeDOS?

First, do you actually except that you cannot boot any Win 3x, including 
3.11.  You have to boot something else first and then run Win 3x as an 
app.  People who were serious about Win 3x put a line at the end of 
autoexec.bat to run Windows (Win).  For Win 9x MS essentially did that 
for us.  People have pulled the shell off of Win 9x.  And, as I recall, 
they ran it on DRDOS.  Don't quote me on that, it was a long time ago.

I ran Win 3.0 and later 3.11 for WG.  I skipped MSDOS 4 and bought MSDOS 
5 when it came out.  Three months later DRDOS 6 came out with 
interactive configuration files, I bought that and it has been the only 
DOS I have used until recently when I have tried FreeDOS.  So, I have 
never run W3x on anything but DRDOS.  I assume it would run on FR.  I 
stopped using W3x when I got OS/2, which has W3x support.

> In my view, it's a total mismatch. FreeDOS 
> doesn't pretend to be a prot-mode o/s

DRDOS has DPMI.  I assume FD could if it doesn't.

For what this is worth, I am able to get FreeDOS with the Q stuff to run 
on newer MBs - AMD 64 -that fail with DRDOS.  They don't like EMM386; DR 
or FD.  I have tried some hybrids - DR plus Q - with limited success.

> and anyway it runs much better in 
> real mode at the moment. If it's going to a 32/64 bit prot-mode o/s then 
> really it's time to forget the whole "legacy" thing and just create a 
> next generation 64bit command line o/s that supports endless memory, 
> multi-processors, multi-tasking, firmware BIOS, native SCSI, NTFS, NFS, 
> KERBEROS and SMB signing.
> 
64 bit is a bit of a jump, but if you will settle for 32 bit - for now - 
I think we did most of that, it's called OS/2, now marketed as 
eCommStation.  You have your choice of Cmd line or GUI interface.

Ray


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