Hello all My very first post, I'm a learner. (not a noob)
WTF ? ? ? --- On Wed, 9/7/11, freedos-user-requ...@lists.sourceforge.net <freedos-user-requ...@lists.sourceforge.net> wrote: > From: freedos-user-requ...@lists.sourceforge.net > <freedos-user-requ...@lists.sourceforge.net> > Subject: Freedos-user Digest, Vol 510, Issue 1 > To: freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net > Date: Wednesday, September 7, 2011, 11:42 PM > Send Freedos-user mailing list > submissions to > freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' > to > freedos-user-requ...@lists.sourceforge.net > > You can reach the person managing the list at > freedos-user-ow...@lists.sourceforge.net > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more > specific > than "Re: Contents of Freedos-user digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Serial ports versus USB versus > virtual computers with DOS > guests (Ralf A. Quint) > 2. Re: {Spam?} [OT] Problems in the > ReactOS community... > (mcelha...@usnetizen.com) > 3. Re: {Spam?} [OT] Problems in the > ReactOS community... > (Marco Achury) > 4. Re: {Spam?} [OT] Problems in the > ReactOS community... > (Michael C. Robinson) > 5. Re: {Spam?} [OT] Problems in the > ReactOS community... > (Ralf A. Quint) > 6. Re: {Spam?} [OT] Problems in the > ReactOS community... > (japhethx gmail) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Wed, 07 Sep 2011 15:41:47 -0700 > From: "Ralf A. Quint" <free...@gmx.net> > Subject: Re: [Freedos-user] Serial ports versus USB versus > virtual > computers with DOS guests > To: freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net > Message-ID: <7.0.0.16.2.20110907153402.06f2a...@gmx.net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; > format=flowed > > At 03:23 PM 9/7/2011, Eric Auer wrote: > > >Hi Ralf, > > > >my idea was that the serial hardware device to USB > hardware > >port conversion was done in hardware, so "either > covered by > >working hardware or hopeless"... Next step is getting > from > >real USB port to anything accessible inside a VM and I > had > >the idea that a typical VM shows USB to guests as USB, > too. > > > >Of course that means more work for DOS then, but still > ;-) > >Probably depends on the VM whether it prefers > pass-through > >of raw USB or rather "made up" devices from host OS > drivers. > > > >I think it is certainly worth a try. Of course with > first > >trying with DOS using real USB on real hardware then > :-) > > But that doesn't look like a real option in this case, as > he has a > serial device (his external speech synthesizer) and an > existing > software (the utilities for said speech synthesizer) he is > trying to run. > > As far as (Free)DOS is concerned, it can only provide > assistance in > form of DOS routines and info for the serial port that in > turn rely > on certain hardware info provided by the BIOS replacement > of the VM. > So it's up to the VM to handle this properly and it is my > practical > experience that most of them are likely to not properly > provide that > info, as most of them simply don't care about such "legacy" > devices anymore... > > Ralf > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Wed, 7 Sep 2011 20:27:35 -0500 > From: mcelha...@usnetizen.com > Subject: Re: [Freedos-user] {Spam?} [OT] Problems in the > ReactOS > community... > To: freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net > Message-ID: > <ca+mc6t7sjlanxjqd+eebqytgypzlxg76shepym_uspdozmw...@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > "There need to be consequences for unprofessionalism, > faschism, etcetera. I > honestly wonder if some of the developers are Neo Nazis." > > This comes across as just a bit "over-the-top" (and poor > spelling as > well...). Fascist, Communist, Socialist, etc., these > are people who > will systematically murder, or at best callously allow the > deaths of, > millions of human beings in pursuit of their vision of a > perfect > world. To say that, "these people must be Nazis > 'cause they were mean > to me", shows a total lack of comprehension of what Nazis > were and > what they did to people. Just being rude and > offensive does not make > someone a Nazi. Get a grip... > > > > On 9/7/11, Michael C. Robinson <plu...@robinson-west.com> > wrote: > > Freedos has it's place. Unlike ReactOS, Freedos > actually works most of > > the time. Partially due to the fact the Freedos > is based on something > > that is far less complex of course. This is OT, > but the relevance is > > that people suggest using ReactOS if and when Windows > is wanted here. > > As far as don't talk about religion, politics, > etcetera, I didn't intend > > to really. An IRC chat channel about ReactOS is > political by nature > > though where the ReactOS devs and moderators clearly > have their own > > troublesome politics. More troubling, I was > threatened with arrest if I > > get on the ReactOS forums or IRC channel using a > different name. For an > > open source project, it seems to me that the > developers and moderators > > are trying to exert a lot of control over > people. Professionalism is > > completely alien to the ReactOS community as far as I > can tell, this is > > unfortunate and it is why I am recommending the > formation of a new > > community to take over the project. > > > > Concerning sanction, that could shape up the current > developers. There > > need to be consequences for unprofessionalism, > faschism, etcetera. I > > honestly wonder if some of the developers are Neo > Nazis. Saying it is > > open source, it cannot be censored for this reason, is > dangerous. On > > this mailing list, talk like that seen on ReactOS IRC > is not allowed. > > The people talking like misbehaved children, not the > victims, would be > > banned from this list. > > > > Freedos is a great system for running orphanware and > it is a great > > system for someone who needs to learn about operating > systems. I hope > > dosbox is something that will work in Syllable. > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Using storage to extend the benefits of virtualization > and iSCSI > > Virtualization increases hardware utilization and > delivers a new level of > > agility. Learn what those decisions are and how to > modernize your storage > > and backup environments for virtualization. > > http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfnl/114/51434361/ > > _______________________________________________ > > Freedos-user mailing list > > Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Wed, 07 Sep 2011 23:05:35 -0430 > From: Marco Achury <marcoach...@gmail.com> > Subject: Re: [Freedos-user] {Spam?} [OT] Problems in the > ReactOS > community... > To: freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net > Message-ID: <4e683807.1070...@gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > > ReactOS ha one more problem, they must to avoid a lawsuit > against > microsoft, > they must to know who is the contributor, they need to know > that > contributor have > not access to microsoft's source code. > > El 07/09/2011 05:19 p.m., Michael C. Robinson escribi?: > > Freedos has it's place. Unlike ReactOS, Freedos > actually works most of > > the time. Partially due to the fact the Freedos > is based on something > > that is far less complex of course. This is OT, > but the relevance is > > that people suggest using ReactOS if and when Windows > is wanted here. > > As far as don't talk about religion, politics, > etcetera, I didn't intend > > to really. An IRC chat channel about ReactOS is > political by nature > > though where the ReactOS devs and moderators clearly > have their own > > troublesome politics. More troubling, I was > threatened with arrest if I > > get on the ReactOS forums or IRC channel using a > different name. For an > > open source project, it seems to me that the > developers and moderators > > are trying to exert a lot of control over > people. Professionalism is > > completely alien to the ReactOS community as far as I > can tell, this is > > unfortunate and it is why I am recommending the > formation of a new > > community to take over the project. > > > > Concerning sanction, that could shape up the current > developers. There > > need to be consequences for unprofessionalism, > faschism, etcetera. I > > honestly wonder if some of the developers are Neo > Nazis. Saying it is > > open source, it cannot be censored for this reason, is > dangerous. On > > this mailing list, talk like that seen on ReactOS IRC > is not allowed. > > The people talking like misbehaved children, not the > victims, would be > > banned from this list. > > > > Freedos is a great system for running orphanware and > it is a great > > system for someone who needs to learn about operating > systems. I hope > > dosbox is something that will work in Syllable. > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Using storage to extend the benefits of virtualization > and iSCSI > > Virtualization increases hardware utilization and > delivers a new level of > > agility. Learn what those decisions are and how to > modernize your storage > > and backup environments for virtualization. > > http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfnl/114/51434361/ > > _______________________________________________ > > Freedos-user mailing list > > Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user > > > > > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Wed, 07 Sep 2011 20:47:06 -0700 > From: "Michael C. Robinson" <plu...@robinson-west.com> > Subject: Re: [Freedos-user] {Spam?} [OT] Problems in the > ReactOS > community... > To: freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net > Message-ID: <1315453626.6472.19.ca...@eagle64.robinson-west.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" > > On Wed, 2011-09-07 at 20:27 -0500, mcelha...@usnetizen.com > wrote: > > "There need to be consequences for unprofessionalism, > faschism, etcetera. I > > honestly wonder if some of the developers are Neo > Nazis." > > > > This comes across as just a bit "over-the-top" (and > poor spelling as > > well...). Fascist, Communist, Socialist, etc., > these are people who > > will systematically murder, or at best callously allow > the deaths of, > > millions of human beings in pursuit of their vision of > a perfect > > world. To say that, "these people must be Nazis > 'cause they were mean > > to me", shows a total lack of comprehension of what > Nazis were and > > what they did to people. Just being rude and > offensive does not make > > someone a Nazi. Get a grip... > > Do a little research on these people before telling me to > get a grip. > > There is some serious anti religiosity in the ReactOS > community where > you don't have to look very deep to find it. Nazis > were political > ideologues who were also fiercely anti religious and > totally racist. > They were at the extreme of having no respect whatsoever > for religiosity > in others. Hitler was a dictator and the Nazis were > proud of this. It > isn't just that people in the ReactOS community were mean > to me once, > there has been a pattern of cruelty going on over the > course of a number > of years, possibly a decade. Get drawn into a > religious discussion or > something similar on the ReactOS IRC channel, expect to get > kicked out. > > Threatening me with prosecution and prison time on the > forums though is > recent, new, and arguably quite over the top. Someone > should call up > short people in the ReactOS community who are going too > far. Suggesting > that I don't have a history of trouble with the ReactOS > community > without looking into what has happened yourself is > disingenuous. There > is a difference between heated discussions and discussions > laced with > hatred. Search the ReactOS forums for nute as well as > zimbra. You will > see that I have followed ReactOS for a long time and that > things have > been getting worse, not better, over time for me. I > think there is a > lot of anti American prejudice in general in the ReactOS > community, many > of these people are German. I have experienced anti > American sentiment > from my own German brother-in-law who my sister finally > called up short. > Not all Germans have an anti American mindset. I'm > sure there are > people posting on the ReactOS boards that aren't anti > American, or at > least I hope there are. > > I am reporting to one open source community that is > functional what is > going on in another open source community that is not in > hopes that > something positive will happen. The ReactOS community > is the only > dysfunctional open source community that I have ever dealt > with. Sure, > tell me I have no idea what fascism is and dismiss my > complaining > complete with a transcript to back it up. I'm not a > criminal, nor will > I profit in any way if the ReactOS project fails. > What have I ever said > in the ReactOS community that calls for threatening me with > prosecution? > If nothing merits this, there is proof then that the > ReactOS community > is troubled and possibly that this trouble is as serious as > I suggest. > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 5 > Date: Wed, 07 Sep 2011 21:33:37 -0700 > From: "Ralf A. Quint" <free...@gmx.net> > Subject: Re: [Freedos-user] {Spam?} [OT] Problems in the > ReactOS > community... > To: freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net > Message-ID: <7.0.0.16.2.20110907210253.06f86...@gmx.net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"; > format=flowed > > At 08:47 PM 9/7/2011, Michael C. Robinson wrote: > > >Do a little research on these people before telling me > to get a grip. > WTF? This delusionary rant of yours clearly shows > that you SERIOUSLY need to get a grip!!!! > > "M?nsche jiddet..." :-\ > > Ralf > (proud to be German) > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 6 > Date: Thu, 08 Sep 2011 08:42:12 +0200 > From: japhethx gmail <japhe...@googlemail.com> > Subject: Re: [Freedos-user] {Spam?} [OT] Problems in the > ReactOS > community... > To: freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net > Message-ID: <4e6863c4.7080...@googlemail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; > format=flowed > > > > What have I ever said > > in the ReactOS community that calls for threatening me > with prosecution? > > If nothing merits this, there is proof then that the > ReactOS community > > is troubled and possibly that this trouble is as > serious as I suggest. > > Judge not, that ye be not judged. > > IOW: don't spam this list with such nonsense! Since you are > apparently a > religious person: ask God to forgive the ReactOS people > their sins. That's the > appropriate answer. Have you never heard of the Sermon on > the Mount? > > > > ------------------------------ > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Doing More with Less: The Next Generation Virtual Desktop > What are the key obstacles that have prevented many > mid-market businesses > from deploying virtual desktops? 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