DOS apps will run under Win7 32-bit, but not 64-bit.
> -----Original Message----- > From: dmccunney [mailto:dennis.mccun...@gmail.com] > Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2013 11:37 AM > To: Discussion and general questions about FreeDOS. > Subject: Re: [Freedos-user] Freedos V2.0 - when will it be available? > > On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 8:29 AM, Rugxulo <rugx...@gmail.com> wrote: > > On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 12:10 AM, dmccunney > <dennis.mccun...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> > > Like I said, Win2k / XP aren't that bad, though they have > quite a few > > catches and omissions. It gets worse later on, but it depends on > > whether you think the tradeoff is worth it (or have the time, > > patience, knowledge, desire to bother trying to install older stuff > > and accept incomplete functionality). > > XP works fine here. 2K works fine on an older box that doesn't have > the RAM to properly run XP. I avoided Vista, but Win7 works well on > the SOs laptop. > > The issues here haven't been whether something runs - it's been UI > changes, and figuring out where MS put a particular function in the > new version, because you don't get to it like you did before. > > (DOS apps don't run at all under Win7, unless you use a VM, but I > found a version that does of the only DOS app the SO used - a DOS port > of the old Unix game Larn.) > > >> I din't care about DOS compatibility - the DOS stuff I used all ran > >> fine in an NTVDM. > > > > Trust me, it's not as perfect as it seems, though yes, for what it > > does, it does fairly well. > > I didn't say it was perfect. I said it worked for me. > > >> Like I said elsewhere, it ran all the DOS stuff *I* used with no > >> problem so I essentially didn't *care*. > > > > That's more of a coincidence (or your minimal needs) than a true > > testament to compatibility. Simply put, most people "didn't care" > > anymore or preferred heavier APIs, but having an incomplete / > > half-broken subsystem doesn't help them stay firm either. > > Yes. So? > > I freely admit NTVDM and DOS compatibility leave somewhat to be > desired, and there will be stuff that doesn't run or will have > problems. > > I don't care, because it works for what I do with it. > > > Granted, perhaps DOS native binaries aren't the easiest or greatest > > things to lug around for ages, but I don't know of a true > "universal" > > solution. Scripts? (Lua?) Bytecode? (Inferno?) We probably shouldn't > > have separate binaries for every single x86 OS, but for some people, > > source compatibility is "good enough". Too bad they make so many > > horrible assumptions in the process. > > There's no such thing as a true universal solution. (But then, how > many folks *need* one? Most folks either just run one platform, or > don't *expect* to have the same programs available everywhere. The > folks most interested will be *developers* trying to target multiple > platforms.) > > The closest is a "Write once, run anywhere" solution like Java. Code > is compiled to a tokenized binary targeted at an arbitrary virtual > machine implemented by the Java runtime. If there *is* a Java runtime > for what you have, the code will run on it. Java runtimes exist for > almost everything. (You still have to be aware of various issues - > it's possible to write non-portable code in Java.) > > You lug about DOS native binaries and deal with compatibility issues > because you either haven't found anything else that will do the same > job, or there is something but you would rather deal with the issues > than switch. > > One interesting trend is wider use of scripting, because current > hardware can run script languages fast enough to make them competitive > with other languages. I'm seeing an increasing amount of stuff > written in Python, which is available for Windows, Linux, and OS/X, > using widget libraries like Qt so it largely looks and acts the same > on any supported platform. > ______ > Dennis > https://plus.google.com/u/0/105128793974319004519 > > -------------------------------------------------------------- > ---------------- > Master Visual Studio, SharePoint, SQL, ASP.NET, C# 2012, HTML5, CSS, > MVC, Windows 8 Apps, JavaScript and much more. Keep your > skills current > with LearnDevNow - 3,200 step-by-step video tutorials by Microsoft > MVPs and experts. 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