----- Original Message -----
> On 06/27/2014 07:27 PM, Petr Vobornik wrote:
> > On 2.6.2014 15:59, Petr Vobornik wrote:
> >> Hi List,
> >>
> >> the purpose if this mail is to start a discussion about reorganization
> >> of navigation items. Users are not fond of such change so we should come
> >> up with a solution which would last for some time.
> >>
> >> Problem:
> >> UX recommendation is that one menu level should contain maximum of 7
> >> items. We have 10 items in Identity, 7 in Policy and 7 in IPA Server.
> >> Basically we reached max. capacity of all 1st-level items.
> >>
> >> Solution:
> >> Introduce new 1st-level items and redistribute 2nd-level items.
> >>
> > 
> > It would be great to get this into 4.0, resuming the discussion. My
> > proposal
> > which takes into account various other proposals:
> > 
> > Identity (7)
> >   - Users
> >   - User Groups
> >   - Hosts
> >   - Host Groups
> >   - Netgroups
> >   - Services
> >   - Automember
> >     - User group rules
> >     - Host group rules
> > Policy (5)
> >   - Host Based Access Control
> >     - HBAC Rules
> >     - HBAC Services
> >     - HBAC Service Groups
> >     - HBAC Test
> >   - Sudo
> >     - Sudo Rules
> >     - Sudo Commands
> >     - Sudo Command Groups
> >   - SELinux User Maps
> >   - Password Policies
> >   - Kerberos Ticket Policy
> > Authentication (3-4)
> >   - Certificates
> >   - (future) User Certificates
> >   - OTP Tokens
> >   - RADIUS Servers
> > Network services (2-3)
> >   - Automount
> >   - DNS
> >     - DNS Zones
> >     - DNS Forward Zones
> >     - DNS Global Configuration
> >   - (future) Vault
> > IPA Server (5-7)
> >   - Role Based Access Control
> >     - Roles
> >     - Privileges
> >     - Permissions
> >     - Self Service Permissions
> >     - Delegations
> >   - ID Ranges
> >   - Realm Domain
> >   - (future) Replication Topology
> >   - Trusts
> >     - Trusts
> >     - Global Trust Configuration
> >   - (future) Views
> >   - Configuration
> > (future) Help
> > - Docs
> > - API
> > - ...
> > 
> > Mostly it's a response to the last proposal:
> > http://www.redhat.com/archives/freeipa-devel/2014-June/msg00107.html
> > 
> > You can check live version at: http://pvoborni.fedorapeople.org/ui/
> > 
> > From the earlier discussion I would say, that there was an agreement on
> > Identity and Policy tabs which are very similar to current implementation.
> > 
> > Simo had a proposal to introduce "Authentication" tab in a future. I guess
> > we
> > can do it now. We already have radius server proxies and certificates are
> > also
> > related. It will solve the "OTP doesn't fit anywhere problem"
> > 
> > I've kept the "Network Services" tab because IDK where to put DNS and
> > Automount :)
> > 
> > Simo's 'Directory' and 'Configuration' were merged into existing 'IPA
> > server'
> > with the difference that all RBAC related stuff is under one item (this
> > option
> > was mentioned by Petr3). Btw RBAC === "Existing items in 'Directory'". The
> > label is 'IPA Server' because almost everything is related to configuration
> > of
> > the server itself maybe with exception of Trust and Views. Label
> > 'Configuration' is too general. Label Directory was quite low-level as
> > pointed
> > out by Dmitry.
> > 
> > This merge allows us to add 'Help' in a future.
> > 
> > It would be good to move something into "Network services" (and maybe
> > rename
> > it) since it has only two(three in future) items.
> 
> Thanks for returning to this effort. 4.0 is indeed the right place to do this
> change.
> 
> Note that with this proposal, Identity tab is already full. I would still
> prefer my original proposal to split Users and Hosts operations + have
> Infrastructure/Trusts tab (some variation of
> http://www.redhat.com/archives/freeipa-devel/2014-June/msg00060.html), but
> apparently this crowded Identity tab is what people want :) I would still
> recommend running it by UX.

Been following the thread and the map Petr has put together here does a great 
job of categorizing these items. The ratio of level one to level two options is 
secondary to logical, intuitive groupings. 

I think the way Identity is here is fine. 7 options is just an average guide 
not the max number. I don't see the types of currency we manage increasing 
dramatically in the future. Even if we add four more options under Identity it 
should have little effect due to the logical groupings. 

The goal here is to not require users memorize tons of options because the top 
level bucket is too big or the label is to generic/specific. I think Petr has 
struck a great balance here. 

One comment - Is 'IPA Server' going to make sense in the downstream? May make 
sense to call it Identity Server which will make sense in both cases.

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