On 08/05/2015 12:13 PM, Jan Cholasta wrote:
Dne 5.8.2015 v 11:55 thierry bordaz napsal(a):
On 08/05/2015 11:27 AM, Martin Basti wrote:

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From: "thierry bordaz" <tbor...@redhat.com>
To: "Jan Cholasta" <jchol...@redhat.com>
Cc: freeipa-devel@redhat.com
Sent: Monday, August 3, 2015 5:34:02 PM
Subject: Re: [Freeipa-devel] Replace stageuser-add --from-delete with
user-undel --to-staged

On 07/28/2015 12:34 PM, Jan Cholasta wrote:
Dne 28.7.2015 v 11:36 Lenka Doudova napsal(a):

Dne 28.7.2015 v 11:27 Jan Cholasta napsal(a):
Dne 27.7.2015 v 17:59 Martin Basti napsal(a):
On 23/07/15 14:43, Martin Basti wrote:
Hello,

I tried to fix #5145 and I partially succeeded.

However, I cannot fix this part of ticket, where user is prompted to
write name and surname.

$ ipa stageuser-add tuser --from-delete
First name: this will be ignored
Last name: this will be also ignored
------------------------
Added stage user "tuser"
------------------------

As the first name and last name are mandatory attributes of
stageuser-add command, but they are not needed by when the
--from-delete option is used.
I would like to ask how to fix this issue, IMO this will be huge
hack
in internal API. Or should we just document this bug as known issue (thierry wrote that this is not use case that should be used often)?

The best solution would be separate command, but this idea was
rejected in thread "[Freeipa-devel] User life cycle: question
regarding the design"

Regards
Martin^2

Hello,

as was mentioned before, we have issue with current internal API
and the
stageuser-add --from-delete command.

We discussed this today, and we did not find a nice way how to fix
it,
so we propose this (which is IMO the best solution):

* stageuser-add --from-delete should be deprecated
+1

* create new option for user-undel: used-undel --to-staged  (or
create
new command) that will handle moving deleted users to staged area as
--from-delete did.
Make it new command please.

Instead of stageuser-add and option --from-delete, which work totally
different, the command user-undel does similar operation than
stage-user
--from-delete, it just uses different container.
NACK on stuffing everything into a single command just because it does
something similar.
How about making it a 'stageuser-undel'? The 'user-undel' moves
preserved user to active, so the 'stageuser-undel' would move preserved to staged. The action is similar, but has slightly different specifics (which attributes are preserved etc.), and for me the 'stageuser-undel'
feels more natural than 'user-undel --to-staged' since it's basically
the same as there is 'stageuser-add' for creating a staged user, not
'user-add --to-staged'. It would be in the same style as all the other
commands concerning operations with users in staged container.
Well, user-undel is the opposite of user-del, and stageuser-undel
should be the opposite of stageuser-del. The stageuser-undel you are
suggesting is not.

Also I'm not sure if we want to (always) remove the deleted user once
a staged user is created from it, but -undel behaves like that.

I don't think the command should be limited to deleted users only.
Active and deleted users share the same namespace, so it is an
arbitrary limitation.
preserved users has been valid active user. In that sense
active/preserved are managed by a same set of CLI
(user-find,user-del,user-show) because a preserved user is a 'user'. So
I would vote for continuing with a 'user-*' commands and use 'user-undel
--to-stage'.

But then if we will make any incompatible change between "user-undel"
and "user-undel --to-stage" we may hit this issue again. I agree with
Honza, this should be a separate command.
What do you mean 'incompatible change' ?

--to-stage option would only select a different container that the
'Active' one ?

That's not sufficient. The command should do the reverse of stageuser-activate, which is ADD and DELETE, possibly with some modifications of the entry between them, not MODRDN like user-undel does.

That is a good point. Do we need to modify anything from a deleted entry to a add it in the stage container. Already delete entry have been purged of several values (password, krb keys, membership,..) do you think of other attributes to remove ?

IIRC the use case is a support engineer who activated too early an entry. So you are right he wants to unactivate it. A question is does the unactivation requires more modifications than the one did by 'user-del --preserve'. Note that we can not retrieve the attribute values when the entry was activated from stage.


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