Hi Rob,

Just curious, does your old-ipa-server have User Private Group disabled or
enabled? Same question goes for your newly migrated IPA server.

I may end up disabling the use of User Private Group on the new server and
default everyone to "ipausers" Group.

I'll see what I can do about getting the logs out.

Thanks very much Rob!


Tony

On Wed, Apr 12, 2023, 10:11 AM Rob Crittenden <rcrit...@redhat.com> wrote:

> HUANG, TONY wrote:
> > Hi Rob,
> >
> > I have been starting from scratch. I will check my logs again. My
> > environment is disconnected from the Internet and I can't easily copy
> > and paste to the thread. My IPA version is the same going from the old
> > to the new (4.8 I believe). The reason I had to do IPA to IPA migration
> > is because my old one is not FIPS enabled where as my new one is FIPS
> > enabled, therefore, I can't just replicate it by promoting it
> >
> > When your "ipa migrate-ds" worked for you, did you also get nobody as
> > your group ownership to the files in your home directory? Similar to
> > when I login to the client machine connected to the newly migrated IPA
> > server, I get /usr/bin/id Cannot find name with GID 6314001, and ls - l
> > /home/htony shows htony : nobody on all of my files and directories.
>
> No, everything is looking fine. The nss commands like getent and id all
> show the properly resolved group names.
>
> > Red Hat support is telling me to delete the users and re-create them ..
> > which defeats the purpose of running ipa migrate-ds ... and I have many
> > users and home directories on a NFS share.
>
> They may be confused by UPG. There currently no way to add a UPG to an
> existing user, so re-creating the user is the only way.
>
> > I am fine if there is no way to do this migration easily, but before
> > coming to that conclusion I am trying to find a way forward.
>
> It's hard to help without seeing what is going on beyond the symptom.
> Like I said, the migration cli I provided works for me.
>
> rob
>
> >
> > Thanks again!
> >
> > --Tony
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Apr 11, 2023 at 11:15 AM Rob Crittenden <rcrit...@redhat.com
> > <mailto:rcrit...@redhat.com>> wrote:
> >
> >     HUANG, TONY wrote:
> >     > Hi Rob,
> >     >
> >     > I've asked Red Hat support, and the support engineer is telling me
> >     that
> >     > it doesn't support migrating of User Private Group and has pointed
> me
> >     > over to https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1261536 The
> >     support
> >     > engineer is also asking me to create new UPG.
> >
> >     It's true that migrating UPG is not possible. The group is converted
> >     into a standard group. You can't create UPG manually by default. I
> was
> >     curious one day and worked out a way to re-attach a group, but
> that's a
> >     different problem.
> >
> >     I don't think you've ever said which version of IPA you are migrating
> >     from/to. Versions sometimes can make a big difference.
> >
> >     You also aren't saying what you are doing in between attempts. Are
> you
> >     fully starting over in between executions or re-running migrate-ds?
> It
> >     would be truly helpful to see the output of the command when groups
> fail
> >     to migrate. If it fails it will say so. If it doesn't include the
> groups
> >     at all then it isn't finding them.
> >
> >     migrate-ds doesn't do anything particularly complicated. It does LDAP
> >     searches for the various objects. For group since you specified
> >     --group-objectclass=posixaccount it's going to search for all of
> those.
> >     This should be visible in your access log.
> >
> >     This works for me:
> >
> >     ipa migrate-ds --bind-dn="cn=Directory Manager"
> >     --user-container=cn=users,cn=accounts
> >     --group-container=cn=groups,cn=accounts
> --group-objectclass=posixgroup
> >
>  
> --user-ignore-attribute={krbPrincipalName,krbextradata,krblastfailedauth,krblastpwdchange,krblastsuccessfulauth,krbloginfailedcount,krbpasswordexpiration,krbticketflags,krbpwdpolicyreference,mepManagedEntry}
> >     --user-ignore-objectclass mepOriginEntry
> >     --group-ignore-attribute=mepmanagedby
> >     --group-ignore-objectclass=mepmanagedEntry --with-compat
> >     ldap://ipa.example.test
> >
> >     > Now my question is if ipa migrate-ds doesn't support migration of
> UPG,
> >     > then how do I move forward after running ipa migrate-ds? I
> currently
> >     > have GIDs that don't associate to usernames and group file
> >     ownership is
> >     > nobody.
> >
> >     Like I said, it doesn't migrate UPG and continue to be UPG, but it
> will
> >     migrate the groups.
> >
> >     > Looking to see if anyone in the community has done an IPA to IPA
> >     > migration ...
> >
> >     Have you searched the list archives?
> >
> >     rob
> >
> >     >
> >     > Thanks!
> >     >
> >     > On Mon, Apr 10, 2023 at 10:26 AM Rob Crittenden
> >     <rcrit...@redhat.com <mailto:rcrit...@redhat.com>
> >     > <mailto:rcrit...@redhat.com <mailto:rcrit...@redhat.com>>> wrote:
> >     >
> >     >     HUANG, TONY wrote:
> >     >     > I didn't get any errors regarding user private groups at
> >     all, and the
> >     >     > UPGs didn't even get migrated to become regular POSIX UNIX
> >     groups
> >     >     > either. They are just not there, so when I login I see a
> message
> >     >     > complaining that /usr/bin/id cannot find my group name.
> >     >
> >     >     They may not be reported as errors, just part of the output.
> >     >
> >     >     You might also want to look at your private groups in the
> >     original IPA
> >     >     to ensure they have the posixgroup objectclass. That is the
> search
> >     >     filter being used.
> >     >
> >     >     rob
> >     >
> >     >     >
> >     >     > I've tried importing the entire cn=groups, but it didn't
> >     solve the
> >     >     > missing UPG problem at all.
> >     >     >
> >     >     > On Mon, Apr 10, 2023, 9:59 AM Rob Crittenden
> >     <rcrit...@redhat.com <mailto:rcrit...@redhat.com>
> >     >     <mailto:rcrit...@redhat.com <mailto:rcrit...@redhat.com>>
> >     >     > <mailto:rcrit...@redhat.com <mailto:rcrit...@redhat.com>
> >     <mailto:rcrit...@redhat.com <mailto:rcrit...@redhat.com>>>> wrote:
> >     >     >
> >     >     >     HUANG, TONY wrote:
> >     >     >     > Rob,
> >     >     >     >
> >     >     >     > I've tried the command from the website below with the
> >     same
> >     >     result.
> >     >     >     > Furthermore, at the FreeIPA to FreeIPA section it
> states
> >     >     "The command
> >     >     >     > doesn't migrate user private groups.", which is
> >     very strange,
> >     >     >     because my
> >     >     >     > migration becomes more complicated when i have to
> >     change group
> >     >     >     ownership
> >     >     >     > and potentially user files.
> >     >     >
> >     >     >     What means is that after migration the groups are no
> longer
> >     >     private.
> >     >     >     They are regular groups.
> >     >     >
> >     >     >     > Am i doing something wrong here?
> >     >     >
> >     >     >     What does the output of migrate-ds say about the missing
> >     groups?
> >     >     >
> >     >     >     rob
> >     >     >
> >     >     >     >
> >     >     >     > Thanks again for your help!
> >     >     >     >
> >     >     >     >
> >     >     >     > Tony
> >     >     >     >
> >     >     >     >
> >     >     >     > On Mon, Apr 10, 2023, 9:06 AM Rob Crittenden
> >     >     <rcrit...@redhat.com <mailto:rcrit...@redhat.com>
> >     <mailto:rcrit...@redhat.com <mailto:rcrit...@redhat.com>>
> >     >     >     <mailto:rcrit...@redhat.com <mailto:rcrit...@redhat.com>
> >     <mailto:rcrit...@redhat.com <mailto:rcrit...@redhat.com>>>
> >     >     >     > <mailto:rcrit...@redhat.com
> >     <mailto:rcrit...@redhat.com> <mailto:rcrit...@redhat.com
> >     <mailto:rcrit...@redhat.com>>
> >     >     <mailto:rcrit...@redhat.com <mailto:rcrit...@redhat.com>
> >     <mailto:rcrit...@redhat.com <mailto:rcrit...@redhat.com>>>>> wrote:
> >     >     >     >
> >     >     >     >     HUANG, TONY wrote:
> >     >     >     >     > Hi Rob,
> >     >     >     >     >
> >     >     >     >     > Thanks for the reply.
> >     >     >     >     >
> >     >     >     >     > User Private Group didn't get migrated. When I
> >     login I
> >     >     see Group
> >     >     >     >     number
> >     >     >     >     > being a number.
> >     >     >     >     >
> >     >     >     >     > How do I migrate UPG over?
> >     >     >     >
> >     >     >     >     I don't see why they didn't migrate in the first
> >     place.
> >     >     Using
> >     >     >     your CLI
> >     >     >     >     *only* groups migrated for me, not users, because
> >     of the
> >     >     error:
> >     >     >     >
> >     >     >     >       tuser: attribute "mepManagedEntry" not allowed
> >     >     >     >
> >     >     >     >     I'd suggest the migration command-line at
> >     >     >     >     https://www.freeipa.org/page/Howto/Migration
> >     >     >     >
> >     >     >     >     rob
> >     >     >     >
> >     >     >     >     >
> >     >     >     >     > Thanks very much!
> >     >     >     >     >
> >     >     >     >     >
> >     >     >     >     > Tony
> >     >     >     >     >
> >     >     >     >     >
> >     >     >     >     > On Mon, Apr 10, 2023, 7:34 AM Rob Crittenden
> >     >     >     <rcrit...@redhat.com <mailto:rcrit...@redhat.com>
> >     <mailto:rcrit...@redhat.com <mailto:rcrit...@redhat.com>>
> >     >     <mailto:rcrit...@redhat.com <mailto:rcrit...@redhat.com>
> >     <mailto:rcrit...@redhat.com <mailto:rcrit...@redhat.com>>>
> >     >     >     >     <mailto:rcrit...@redhat.com
> >     <mailto:rcrit...@redhat.com> <mailto:rcrit...@redhat.com
> >     <mailto:rcrit...@redhat.com>>
> >     >     <mailto:rcrit...@redhat.com <mailto:rcrit...@redhat.com>
> >     <mailto:rcrit...@redhat.com <mailto:rcrit...@redhat.com>>>>
> >     >     >     >     > <mailto:rcrit...@redhat.com
> >     <mailto:rcrit...@redhat.com>
> >     >     <mailto:rcrit...@redhat.com <mailto:rcrit...@redhat.com>>
> >     <mailto:rcrit...@redhat.com <mailto:rcrit...@redhat.com>
> >     >     <mailto:rcrit...@redhat.com <mailto:rcrit...@redhat.com>>>
> >     >     >     <mailto:rcrit...@redhat.com <mailto:rcrit...@redhat.com>
> >     <mailto:rcrit...@redhat.com <mailto:rcrit...@redhat.com>>
> >     >     <mailto:rcrit...@redhat.com <mailto:rcrit...@redhat.com>
> >     <mailto:rcrit...@redhat.com <mailto:rcrit...@redhat.com>>>>>> wrote:
> >     >     >     >     >
> >     >     >     >     >     Tony Super via FreeIPA-users wrote:
> >     >     >     >     >     > Hello,
> >     >     >     >     >     >
> >     >     >     >     >     > I am trying to migrate from my an IPA
> server
> >     >     that has FIPS
> >     >     >     >     >     disabled to an IPA server that has FIPS
> >     enabled. Both
> >     >     >     the old and
> >     >     >     >     >     the new IPA will have DNS, CA, and etc.
> >     >     >     >     >     >
> >     >     >     >     >     > I ran: ipa migrate-ds
> --bind-dn="cn=Directory
> >     >     Manager"
> >     >     >     >     >     --user-container=cn=users,cn=accounts
> >     >     >     >     >     --group-container=cn=groups,cn=accounts
> >     >     >     >     >     --group-objectclass=posixgroup
> >     >     >     >     >     --user-ignore-objectclass=mepOriginEntry
> >     --with-compat
> >     >     >     >     >     ldap://oldipa.server.com
> >     <http://oldipa.server.com>
> >     >     <http://oldipa.server.com> <http://oldipa.server.com>
> >     >     >     <http://oldipa.server.com>
> >     >     >     >     <http://oldipa.server.com> However, when I
> >     >     >     >     >     login to a client machine connected to the
> >     new IPA
> >     >     >     server, my file
> >     >     >     >     >     ownership becomes htony : nobody.
> >     >     >     >     >     >
> >     >     >     >     >     > What steps have I missed within the
> migration
> >     >     process?
> >     >     >     >     >     >
> >     >     >     >     >     > I've tried exporting cn=groups tree from
> >     the old IPA
> >     >     >     server
> >     >     >     >     into a
> >     >     >     >     >     LDIF and imported to the new IPA server, but
> it
> >     >     did not
> >     >     >     solve the
> >     >     >     >     >     problem.
> >     >     >     >     >
> >     >     >     >     >     Did your user-private groups migrate? Is
> >     there an
> >     >     htony
> >     >     >     group?
> >     >     >     >     What is
> >     >     >     >     >     the group value in getent passwd htony?
> >     >     >     >     >
> >     >     >     >     >     > For everything else, DNS, sudoers,
> automount,
> >     >     and etc,
> >     >     >     can I
> >     >     >     >     >     simply export from the old server and import
> >     into the
> >     >     >     new server?
> >     >     >     >     >
> >     >     >     >     >     Probably. It's possible you might have to
> >     massage some
> >     >     >     of the
> >     >     >     >     entries
> >     >     >     >     >     but I don't know of anything specific.
> >     >     >     >     >
> >     >     >     >     >     > I also have 100+ client machines, is there
> an
> >     >     easy way
> >     >     >     where
> >     >     >     >     I can
> >     >     >     >     >     unjoin the machines from old-ipa-server and
> then
> >     >     join to the
> >     >     >     >     >     new-ipa-server? (My infrastructure is
> >     Ansible-enabled)
> >     >     >     >     >     Take a look at the ansible-freeipa project
> >     (and not
> >     >     >     >     freeipa-ansible).
> >     >     >     >     >
> >     >     >     >     >     rob
> >     >     >     >     >
> >     >     >     >
> >     >     >
> >     >
> >
>
>
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