Andrew I would like to see your research forms. I am wiling to bet that I can exactly duplicate them in a freepm template.
Chason
>From: "Andrew po-jung Ho" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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>Subject: [FPM-Discuss] FreePM-OIO, was Re: Research was: Templates
>Date: Tue, 05 Jun 2001 11:42:24 -0700
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>On Wed, 6 Jun 2001 00:12:32 Alexander Chelnokov wrote:
> >Hello Tim,
> >
> >Tuesday, June 05, 2001, 9:31:50 PM, you wrote:
> >
> >TC> with the full text searching capability across the entire set of
> >TC> records I believe a practice can build an enormously useful repository
> >
> >Text search is great of course, but it is only one option from
> >required for medical data analysis. And, or, not, more than, less
> >than, between, inlist, isempty and so on are also basic. Search on
> >on-line constructed expressions like admission_date-discharge_date>5
> >would also be necessary.
>
>These are already provided by SQL-capable database management systems.
>That is why OIO comes with these capabilities with very little additional code.
>
>Zope can do some of this but require more coding. Tim knows more about Zope vs. SQL so I look forward to his remarks.
>
> >TC> Can you duplicate 'near' searches in context, in SQL? With OIO you
> >
> >There are search tools in bibliographic systems which allow something
> >similar with defined number of other words between search terms. But
> >our tasks rarely are limited with search only. Found stuff has to be
> >analyzed. Something like across the hospital calculation of safe days
> >in blondes less or equal 25, with waist less than 65 cm and who lives
> >not farther than 25 km from my office. Or for instance find answers to
> >questions like "Do smokers have longer healing period than non-smokers
> >in open grade III tibial fractures treated with external fixation?"
> >"How quality of life changes after different managing programs and are
> >differencies between and inside groups significant?"
>
>Yes! This is exactly what the OIO system is designed to do.
>
> >TC> What information do you see that is missing from FreePM that would caue
> >TC> you to make that statement?
> >
> >Except discussed problems of i18n <:->, IMHO it would be great to
> >have ad hoc query tools (in FreePM as well in OIO).
>
>OIO already has online analysis capabilities. And/Or/Not in browser-accessible drill-down screens. Date operations still require messy SQL writing (through editing Zope SQL methods). This should change over time. :-)
>
> > With more or less
> >standard design - user can define search conditions (see above ;),
> >output fields,
>
>Done.
>
> > sort order,
>
>Not yet. (Sort by field name only for now. How else?)
>
> > output format (comma delimited text or
> >spreadsheet, PDF/graphs, etc)
>
>We have comma delimited text and XML for now.
>
> >and, optionally, basic calculations
> >(average with standard error, min, max, count etc).
>
>Done.
>
> > Actually i would
> >be happy having any table output which i could open with Excel and use
> >its Pivot Table, base statistics and chart capabilities.
>
>Done - you can import comma delimited text directly in Excel. I do this all the time with OIO-collected data.
>
> >Or process
> >the table with a statistical package like SPSS or Statistica.
>
>Done - you can import data into SPSS.
>
>Best regards,
>
>Andrew
>---
>Andrew P. Ho, M.D.
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>Assistant Clinical Professor
>Department of Psychiatry, Harbor-UCLA Medical Center
>University of California, Los Angeles
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