Sorry to jump in here, but I feel like I have to defend something I
believe in now.
I haven't read this entire thing, but I can say I have seen this a
hundred times. If you cannot read or clearly understand the topic in the
extensive documentation provided. Then you need to find someone else who
knows Unix or BSD. There is no way anyone is going to give you a simple
answer. The FreeBSD/Unix/Linux community provides vast amounts of
documentation, research, and help. First look for your answer by going
through old mailing lists, type in errors you are receiving in google,
or other easy troubleshooting tips. But don't expect to say I can't get
it to work and tell me how to make it work. I will admit I am a complete
FreeBSD/Unix noob, but I have spent countless hours now playing with the
operating system, pulling my hair out, and ready to blow it up. But that
frustrating process is the knowledge base I develop in knowing how a
particular program works.
As far as paying someone or a commercial product. Go for it. 1000% mark
up on something that is already free. If you do not have the time,
patience, or know how, then by all means this is your best solution. 99%
of the companies go look at licensing agreements. You will see a lot of
it documents back to what is already Open Source and Free.
PS.
As an end note it is just as fucking stupid as I post Message of Days
for employees that never read it and always ask what are we doing. I
can't answer 100's of the same question everyday. That is why the
DOCUMENTATION is very well written generally, and lots of time goes into
it. Hell you can figure out Unix by just installing the MAN pages and
taking the time to play with the commands; then I see you as one of my
fellow X-Employees that lied on resume of knowing how to READ something
that is right in front of you everyday. So don't expect people not to
get pissed face.
P. K. wrote:
And Mr. Friendly wrote:
Yes. It's clear you're not willing to pay for FreeRADIUS support,
and would rather go with a commercial solution.
Huh? Well, that comment makes no sense but I'll try to squeeze
something useful out of it.... Just so I'm clear, because this would
be news to me, FreeRadius paid support is available? From where?
It's also clear
you're upset that you didn't get immediate answers to all of your
questions, for free. There's little anyone can do to solve that
problem.
Ah, okay. So you do operate under the "you get what you pay for"
philosophy. And BTW Thanks for taking the time to respond to this
email with insults and accusations. Does the paid for service come
with your snide responses as well? I'd just love to be able to pay
real money for the honor of subjecting myself to your charismatic
attitude.
--Paul
Paul Kuchinski
Network Administrator
Smeal College of Business Administration
Penn State University
email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
phone: (814)865-0366
fax: (814)865-1845
Alan DeKok wrote:
"P. K." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Thanks for your reply. Unfortunately, the FreeRadius documentation
and support is so abysmal and my experience too limited to make good
use of the advice you gave. Each OSS package has its benefits and
weaknesses I guess. For instance I've used ISC DHCP server for years
and it has stellar support from the programmer, great on-line
information and documentation so much so that I can't imagine using
anything else.
ISC DHCP has one, maybe two full-time programmers working on it, ISC
has 100's of 1000's of dollars in funds to support it, and companies
have paid large sums of money to for ISC to write additional
documentation.
Perhaps in the future the FreeRadius writer's will realize how
useless their software is with the level of documentation and
support they are providing and choose to make improvements or maybe
they'll just continue to operate on a "you get what you pay for basis."
Yes. It's clear you're not willing to pay for FreeRADIUS support,
and would rather go with a commercial solution. It's also clear
you're upset that you didn't get immediate answers to all of your
questions, for free. There's little anyone can do to solve that
problem.
And I will note that I've dealt with many people who've installed
multiple servers, commercial and open source. Most say that the
FreeRADIUS documentation is more than adequate for their needs.
Alan DeKok.
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