Hi

I am still having problems with mk-fieldsign even after installing a new
version of freesurfer and making various changes to libraries etc. when i run;
"paint-sess -sf sessid -a rtopy -hemi rh" i get the error below:

tksurfer: run tcl script: mk-fieldsign.tcl
couldn't read file "mk-fieldsign.tcl": no such file or directory

even though mk-fieldsign.tcl is in the same directory as tksurfer.tcl (which
works fine).
i am running Red Hat Linux release 9 (Shrike) and installed from
freesurfer-Linux-rh9-v2.2.tar.gz

any idea what to do?
thanks for your help!

Jane


In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Nick
Schmansky <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Jane,
> 
> Concerning the libraries libitk3.2.so and libitcl3.2.so, Freesurfer does
> not use these libraries any more (I think the older -20040218 release
> did, however).
> 
> Do you have the environment variable ITCL_LIBRARY defined in your
> startup .cshrc file?  You can test if it is set by typing (in csh or
> tcsh):
> 
>   env|grep ITCL
> 
> If it is set (which it might be, from your older freesurfer
> installation), then it should be deleted or commented-out from
> your .cshrc (or possibly it was placed in your
> $FREESURFER_HOME/SetUpFreeSurfer.csh file).
> 
> You can also just type this:
> 
>   unsetenv ITCL_LIBRARY
> 
> and then try tkmedit.
> 
> If this is not the problem, can you tell me which OS you are running?
> Type:
> 
>   cat /etc/redhat-release
> 
> and
> 
>   uname -a
> 
> A last ditch effort is to install the itcl libs, from this site:
> 
>  http://rpmfind.net/linux/rpm2html/search.php?query=itcl
> 
> But this should not be necessary, as tkmedit that you have does not use
> this library (I am truly puzzled why 'ldd' shows that it needs these
> libs).
>  
> Thanks,
> 
> Nick
> 
> 
> On Mon, 2005-12-12 at 11:40 +0000, Jane Aspell wrote:
> > hi nick
> > 
> > when i type >ldd `which tkmedit` i get the ouput pasted below this email.
> > libitk3.2.so and libitcl3.2.so are not found - could be the problem?
> > 
> > uncommenting 'source ${FSL_DIR}/etc/fslconf/fsl.csh' in FreeSurferEnv.csh
> > (and typing 'unsetenv TCLLIBPATH') had no effect.
> > 
> > an earlier version of freesurfer(freesurfer-20040218) didn't give me any of
> > these problems and tkmedit etc worked fine.
> > 
> > also, does ANYONE know how to interpret the colour coding (for 
> > fovea/vertical
> > meridian etc) produced by the FsFast retinotopy analysis?!
> > 
> > thanks again!
> > 
> > jane
> > 
> > 
> > >ldd `which tkmedit`
> >  libtix8.1.8.3.so =>
> > /home/jaspell/freesurfer/lib/tcltktixblt/lib/libtix8.1.8.3.so (0x40017000)
> >         libtk8.4.so => 
> > /home/jaspell/freesurfer/lib/tcltktixblt/lib/libtk8.4.so
> > (0x40051000)
> >         libtcl8.4.so =>
> > /home/jaspell/freesurfer/lib/tcltktixblt/lib/libtcl8.4.so (0x40111000)
> >         libglut.so.3 => /usr/lib/libglut.so.3 (0x401ba000)
> >         libSM.so.6 => /usr/X11R6/lib/libSM.so.6 (0x401ef000)
> >         libICE.so.6 => /usr/X11R6/lib/libICE.so.6 (0x401f8000)
> >         libXmu.so.6 => /usr/X11R6/lib/libXmu.so.6 (0x40210000)
> >         libXi.so.6 => /usr/X11R6/lib/libXi.so.6 (0x40226000)
> >         libGLU.so.1 => /usr/X11R6/lib/libGLU.so.1 (0x4022e000)
> >         libGL.so.1 => /usr/X11R6/lib/libGL.so.1 (0x402ab000)
> >         libX11.so.6 => /usr/X11R6/lib/libX11.so.6 (0x402ef000)
> >         libjpeg.so.62 => /usr/lib/libjpeg.so.62 (0x403ce000)
> >         libtiff.so.3 => /usr/lib/libtiff.so.3 (0x403ed000)
> >         libcrypt.so.1 => /lib/libcrypt.so.1 (0x4042e000)
> >         libz.so.1 => /usr/lib/libz.so.1 (0x4045b000)
> >         libm.so.6 => /lib/tls/libm.so.6 (0x40469000)
> >         libpthread.so.0 => /lib/tls/libpthread.so.0 (0x4048b000)
> >         libc.so.6 => /lib/tls/libc.so.6 (0x42000000)
> >         libitk3.2.so => not found
> >         libitcl3.2.so => not found
> >         libdl.so.2 => /lib/libdl.so.2 (0x4049a000)
> >         libXt.so.6 => /usr/X11R6/lib/libXt.so.6 (0x4049e000)
> >         libXext.so.6 => /usr/X11R6/lib/libXext.so.6 (0x404f0000)
> >         libstdc++.so.5 => /usr/lib/libstdc++.so.5 (0x404ff000)
> >         libgcc_s.so.1 => /lib/libgcc_s.so.1 (0x405b2000)
> >         /lib/ld-linux.so.2 => /lib/ld-linux.so.2 (0x40000000)
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Nick
> > Schmansky <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > > Jane,
> > > 
> > > This is an unusual error, since tkmedit and tksurfer do not use the ITK
> > > library.  To figure out how libitk3.2.so is being referenced, can you
> > > send me the output of this command:
> > > 
> > >   ldd `which tkmedit`
> > > 
> > > I suspect there is some conflict between the FSL setup and Freesurfer,
> > > as FSL does use ITK, and Freesurfer does not, but performs the FSL setup
> > > (as a convenience to MGH-NMR users).  Along this line, one option is to
> > > edit the file FreeSurferEnv.csh (found in your $FREESURFER_HOME) and
> > > comment-out this line:
> > > 
> > >   source ${FSL_DIR}/etc/fslconf/fsl.csh
> > > 
> > > like this:
> > > 
> > > # source ${FSL_DIR}/etc/fslconf/fsl.csh
> > > 
> > > Another option is to type this after sourcing the freesurfer setup file:
> > > 
> > >   unsetenv TCLLIBPATH
> > > 
> > > This last option is just a guess at a fix though.
> > > 
> > > Nick
> > > 
> > > 
> > > On Mon, 2005-12-05 at 15:37 +0000, Jane Aspell wrote:
> > > > hi
> > > > 
> > > > i installed a newer version of freesurfer (using download
> > > > freesurfer-Linux-rh9-v2.2.tar.gz) but when i try and run tkmedit or
tksurfer i
> > > > get the error:
> > > > 
> > > > "error while loading shared libraries: libitk3.2.so: cannot open shared
object
> > > > file: No such file or directory"
> > > > 
> > > > this is my output when i source SetUpFreeSurfer.csh:
> > > > 
> > > > Setting up environment for FreeSurfer/FS-FAST (and FSL)
> > > > FREESURFER_HOME /home/jaspell/freesurfer
> > > > FSFAST_HOME     /home/jaspell/freesurfer/fsfast
> > > > SUBJECTS_DIR    /home/jaspell/freesurfer/subjects
> > > > FUNCTIONALS_DIR /home/jaspell/freesurfer/sessions
> > > > MINC_BIN_DIR    /usr/pubsw/packages/mni/current/bin
> > > > MINC_LIB_DIR    /usr/pubsw/packages/mni/current/lib
> > > > TCLLIBPATH      /home/jaspell/freesurfer/lib/tcltktixblt/lib
> > > > FSL_DIR         /usr/local/fsl
> > > > 
> > > > and these are the contents of 
> > > > /home/jaspell/freesurfer/lib/tcltktixblt/lib:
> > > > 
> > > > blt2.4/            libBLTlite24.a         libtclstub8.4.a     
libtk8.4.so*   
> > > > tix8.1/
> > > > libBLT24.a*        libBLTlite.2.4.dylib*  libtix8.1.8.3.so    
libtk.so.0*    
> > > > tixConfig.sh
> > > > libBLT.2.4.dylib*  libBLTlite.a           libtix8.1.8.4.so    
libtkstub8.4.a 
> > > > tk8.4/
> > > > libBLT.2.dylib*    libtcl8.4.so*          libtixsam8.1.8.4.so  tcl8.4/ 
      
> > > > tkConfig.sh
> > > > libBLT.a*          libtcl.so.0*           libtix.so.0          
> > > > tclConfig.sh
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > any idea how to fix it?
> > > > 
> > > > i don't suppose there's a way of updating an old version of freesurfer
without
> > > > reinstalling the entire (new version) package?
> > > > 
> > > > thanks!
> > > > 
> > > > jane
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Doug
> > > > Greve <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > > > > 
> > > > > That's a pretty old version. Can you download and install a new 
> > > > > version?
> > > > > 
> > > > > I actually don't know that much about the interpretation of the color
> > > > > wheel. Maybe Nouchine or Sari can help with this.
> > > > > 
> > > > > doug
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > On Fri, 2 Dec 2005, Jane Aspell wrote:
> > > > > 
> > > > > > hi again
> > > > > >
> > > > > > i'm still really stuck with my retinotopy analysis as i'm not sure 
> > > > > > if my
> > > > > > version of paint-sess $Id: paint-sess,v 1.2 2003/08/06 00:53:50
greve Exp $
> > > > > > FAST Version 20031218) has a bug in it (it doesn't make the field 
> > > > > > sign
> > map). i
> > > > > > originally downloaded freesurfer-20040218-Linux.tar.gz (for RedHat 
> > > > > > 9).
> > > > > >
> > > > > > also, can someone also confrim the colour coding is: red=upper
field/fovea,
> > > > > > blue=horizontal meridian/parafovea, green=lower visual 
> > > > > > field/periphery?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > i can't work out what the overlay threshold settings should be in
> > tksurfer to
> > > > > > correctly display the colours to code the retinotopy, is there some
> > rationale
> > > > > > for choosing them?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > thanks a lot for your help!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Jane
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > In message
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Doug
> > > > > > Greve <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> What version of freesurfer (and paint-sess) are you using? This 
> > > > > >> was a
> > > > > >> problem in some versions about 6 mo ago, but I thought I fixed them
> > > > > >> all.
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> doug
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> On Thu, 24 Nov 2005, Jane Aspell wrote:
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>> hi again
> > > > > >>> I have been proceeding with the retinotopy analysis using FsFast,
> > > > > > following the
> > > > > >>> instructions at:
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >
https://surfer.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/fswiki/FsFastIndividualRetinotopyAnalysis
> > > > > >>> and i believe i have successfully overlaid the results on my
surfaces and
> > > > > > now
> > > > > >>> have two questions:
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>> i wasn't able to create the fieldsign with 'paint-sess' because it
> > > > > > couldn't find
> > > > > >>> tksurfer.new. when i run 'surf-sess' i use the flag -old which
forces it
> > > > > > to use
> > > > > >>> tksurfer.old but this doesn't work in the former case. how can i 
> > > > > >>> make
> > > > > >>> 'paint-sess' use tksurfer.old and thus create the fieldsign?
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>> there are no instructions on how to relate the colours seen when
viewing
> > > > > > eccen
> > > > > >>> and polar to the location of the ring and wedge. is there a map
somewhere
> > > > > > that
> > > > > >>> can be loaded that tells me what order the colours run from fovea 
> > > > > >>> to
> > > > > > periphery
> > > > > >>> and from vertical to horizontal meridian etc.?
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>> thanks again for your help!
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>> jane
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> --
> > > > > >> Douglas N. Greve, Ph.D.
> > > > > >> MGH-NMR Center
> > > > > >> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > > >> Phone Number: 617-724-2358
> > > > > >> Fax: 617-726-7422
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > 
> > > > > -- 
> > > > > Douglas N. Greve, Ph.D.
> > > > > MGH-NMR Center
> > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > > Phone Number: 617-724-2358 
> > > > > Fax: 617-726-7422
> > > > > 
> > > > 
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> > > 
> > > 
> > 
> > 
> 
> 

-- 
Dr Jane Aspell
Department of Experimental Psychology, University of Oxford,
South Parks Road, Oxford, OX1 3UD      
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