Yes, it does look from the images like the L-R and A-P directions are swapped. So you can switch around the x and y columns of you gradient table and rerun the preprocessing and check the eigenvectors again. It may be some other combination of swaps that needs to be done, but the x and y looks like the most likely to me. For sure the gradient table is wrong.

On Thu, 5 Sep 2013, Joana Braga Pereira wrote:

Thanks!
I've uploaded those files as well as dmrirc and bvecs and bvals.

Let me know what you think.


2013/9/5 Anastasia Yendiki <ayend...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu>

      Indeed, they look like they're oriented A-P in the corpus callosum and 
L-R in the cinglulum,
      when it should be the opposite obviously. This'd mean you'd have to swap 
things in the gradient
      table. It's hard to tell for sure from the screenshot though. If you 
upload the dtifit_FA and
      dtifit_V1 volumes for me here, I'll look at them:
              https://gate.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/filedrop2/

      On Thu, 5 Sep 2013, Joana Braga Pereira wrote:

            Hi Anastasia,
            Thanks! I checked dtifit_FA and did the overlay with V1. 

            They don't look ok to me (see attached picture). Any suggestions on 
how to solve
            this? Perhaps by modifying
            any of the previous steps?

            Thanks!




            2013/9/5 Anastasia Yendiki <ayend...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu>

                  Hm, this looks uniformly bad. Have you checked that the 
gradient directions
            are correct? You
                  can check that by looking at the eigenvectors from the tensor 
fit that's done
            as part of the
                  preprocessing. Although tracula doesn't use tensors for 
tractography, it's a
            quick way to check
                  that your inputs are correct.

                  In fslview, overlay dmri/dtifit_V1.nii.gz on 
dmri/dtifit_FA.nii.gz, and
            display dtifit_V1 as
                  lines. Then make sure that the lines follow the basic anatomy 
e.g. in the
            corpus callosum
                  (L-R), cingulum (A-P), corticospinal tract (I-S).

                  On Thu, 5 Sep 2013, Joana Braga Pereira wrote:

                        Hi,
                        Thanks for all the replies, I solved the problem I had 
before.

                        However, after finishing the Tracula pre-processing 
steps I tried to
            visualize the
                        tracts by typing:

                        freeview -tv CTR01/dpath/merged_avg33_mni_bbr.mgz

                        And, as you can see in the picture I'm attaching to 
this email, it
            seems the tracts
                        were not properly
                        reconstructed.

                        Does anyone know why?

                        Should I make some changes and for example set the 
control points
            differently from
                        the ones proposed on
                        Tracula website?

                        Any help will be greatly appreciated!

                        Thanks,

                        joana




                        2013/9/2 Watson, Christopher 
<christopher.wat...@childrens.harvard.edu>
                              Indeed. It's actually really easy to set up, too.
                              ________________________________________
                              From: Anastasia Yendiki 
[ayend...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu]
                              Sent: Monday, September 02, 2013 3:46 PM
                              To: Watson, Christopher
                              Cc: Joana Braga Pereira; 
freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
                              Subject: Re: [Freesurfer] Tracula error - unknown queue 
"long.q",
            "short.q"

                              Thanks for the pointers, Chris. I'd call it an 
"opportunity for
            FSL
                              customization" rather than an "FSL problem" per 
se :o)

                              On Mon, 2 Sep 2013, Watson, Christopher wrote:

                              > This is an FSL problem. You can try the FSL 
list, and check out
            some links:
                              > https://www2.fmrib.ox.ac.uk/phpwiki/index/FslSge
                              >
                       
            
http://neuro.debian.net/blog/2012/2012-03-09_parallelize_fsl_with_condor.html
                              >
                             
                       
            
http://chrisfilo.tumblr.com/post/579493955/how-to-configure-sun-grid-engine-for-fsl-under-ubuntu
                              >
                              > ________________________________________
                              > From: freesurfer-boun...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
                        [freesurfer-boun...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu] on
                              behalf of Joana Braga Pereira 
[jbragapere...@gmail.com]
                              > Sent: Monday, September 02, 2013 9:53 AM
                              > To: freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
                              > Subject: [Freesurfer] Tracula error - unknown queue 
"long.q",
            "short.q"
                              >
                              > Dear Anastasia and FreeSurfers,
                              >
                              > I was preprocessing some data using tracula and 
found this
            error after
                        running  trac-all
                              -bedp -c dmrirc:
                              >
                              > INFO: SUBJECTS_DIR is /data-02/joana/Last
                              > INFO: Diffusion root is /data-02/joana/tracula/
                              > Actual FREESURFER_HOME /usr/local/freesurfer-5.3
                              > WARN: Running FSL's bedbost locally - this 
might take a while
                              > WARN: It is recommended to run this step on a 
cluster
                              > bedpostx_mgh -n 2 
/data-02/joana/tracula//XXX/dmri
                              > subjectdir is /data-02/joana/tracula/XXX/dmri
                              > Making bedpostx directory structure
                              > Queuing preprocessing stages
                              > Unable to run job: Job was rejected because job 
requests
            unknown queue
                        "short.q".
                              > Exiting.
                              > Queuing parallel processing stage
                              > Unable to run job: Job was rejected because job 
requests
            unknown queue
                        "long.q".
                              > Exiting.
                              > Queuing post processing stage
                              > Unable to run job: denied: "60" is not a valid 
object name
            (cannot start
                        with a digit)
                              > Job was rejected because job requests unknown queue 
"long.q".
                              > Exiting.
                              >
                              > Type 
/data-02/joana/tracula/3119/dmri.bedpostX/monitor to show
            progress.
                              > Type 
/data-02/joana/tracula/3119/dmri.bedpostX/cancel to
            terminate all the
                        queued tasks.
                              >
                              > You will get an email at the end of the 
post-processing stage.
                              >
                              >
                              > So far no slices have been processed. Does 
anyone know how to
            solve it?
                              >
                              > Thanks!
                              >
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